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are we ever calling this river shove
bjizzle44
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August 28, 2010 - 2:16 pm
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just joined tourny so no reads. villain limps then call my pre flop raise. with no reads i put him on any two lol. with top pr 6 handed and it checked to me i make std cbet. get called. he checks turn i follow behind with ck. river two pr and he checks. my read is that he was on some type of gut shot with a club so im safe to bet on river. he shoves. wtf!! kj and any combo of clubs crush me. cant put him on bigger two pr with this type of play. so on this board with this action can i call?

Poker Stars $3.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t20/t40 Blinds – 6 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Maltlicky (BTN): t2150 53.75 BBs
ptman16 (SB): t2985 74.62 BBs
PikovijBrat (BB): t3000 75 BBs
trokcy (UTG): t13750 343.75 BBs
BJIZZLE44 (MP): t3530 88.25 BBs
forkinkings (CO): t1585 39.62 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) BJIZZLE44 is MP with 7 of hearts A of diamonds
trokcy calls t40, BJIZZLE44 raises to t155, 4 folds, trokcy calls t115

Flop: (t370) Q of clubs T of clubs A of clubs (2 players)
trokcy checks, BJIZZLE44 bets t225, trokcy calls t225

Turn: (t820) 2 of diamonds (2 players)
trokcy checks, BJIZZLE44 checks

River: (t820) 7 of diamonds (2 players)
trokcy checks, BJIZZLE44 bets t550, trokcy raises to t3360

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August 28, 2010 - 3:09 pm
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Seems a check on the river was in order.  You stated you though he was on a busted draw, if that is the case do you expect him to call your bet?  I think this is a great case of he folds with nothing and he calls or raises with a better hand.

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August 28, 2010 - 3:29 pm
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billbam said:

Seems a check on the river was in order.  You stated you though he was on a busted draw, if that is the case do you expect him to call your bet?  I think this is a great case of he folds with nothing and he calls or raises with a better hand.


 

wow that meant a lot. nevr even considered that type of thought processing. man i have so far too go.

 

ty bjizz

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August 28, 2010 - 3:48 pm
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his line looks FOS.  I doubt he turns a better (or worse, for that matter) 2 pair in to a bluff, and a flopped flush/straight would likely lead river after you checked the turn.  I mean he's obviously pretty polarized here, but I can definitely see some bluffs in there.

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