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MP is 13/13 over 16 hands with 0/2 (EP) and 0/2 (MP) raise – his two preflop raises have come from LP and the Blinds. I 3bet to 1/3 of my stack so I could jam any flop, but when he 4bet jams I have to call it off, right? What is the best play preflop? It is only 6 handed and with 23BB AQs I'm thinking it's time to get it in, but not convinced. I feel that with < 20BBs I would just shove, but feel awkward at 23BBs. Thoughts???
Full Tilt Poker $2 $0.20 Rebuy No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t120/t240 Blinds + t25 – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
BTN: BB = 77.0, t18470
SB: BB = 57.1, t13710
Hero (BB): BB = 22.8, t5470
UTG: BB = 32.1, t7710
MP: BB = 55.1, t13220
CO: BB = 53.3, t12800
Pre Flop: (t510) Hero is BB with A
Q
1 fold, MP raises to t720, 3 folds, Hero raises to t1800, MP requests TIME, MP raises to t13195 all in, Hero calls t3645 all in
June 22, 2010
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You really don't have enough hands on the villian for a solid read. I probably would have just called his raise unless I was prepared to shove. You are the short stack at the table. AQs is a strong hand six-handed and it may be awhile before something better comes along. If I 3-bet I think I would have shoved. I just hate calling shoves, I like to be the agressor.
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ur stack is a bit awquard for a 3bet in this spot. . flatting or 3bet shoving is best here. because we will be OOP i lean more towards the 3bet jam. there is nothing wrong with the 3bet as long as ur not folding to a 4bet/shove. but in this spot im likely flatting here and evaluating play from there. ur not in the danger zone yet but it is time to start picking spots and collecting pots. if we completly miss the flop we have a perfect shove stack with 19bb left.
my play here personally is 3bet jamming and i also like to flat pre and jam any flop for variety.
bjizz
i don't think you are at the point where you really need to start shoving with your stack size. i mean you can easily flat and play postflop; and you are right 3-bet shoving is awkward and seems overly excessive. at later stages in the tournament if the blind levels were 300/600 for example, would be a much better spot.
October 6, 2010
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i dont really like flatting OOP here. prefer the jam myself
3bet jamming after high-fiving the monitor
I mean its 6max, so I figure even against a somewhat tight guy you are far ahead of his range. Calling with 23BB and then playing postflop oop is just asking for problems.
Hey there, new to the site.
I agree that 3 bet shoving here is the best play. I would say that its the right play in most cases, I'm leaning more towards it in this case because for two main reasons:
1-Its 6-max
2- We dont have much history with the opponent
If we knew he opened light than maybe just the 3 bet works pre, but without any real solid evidence that this is the case, it opens us up to the 4 bet, and since you are prepared to shove any flop, you have to call. Unfortunately his 4 bet puts us in a predicament because you have to figure that for him to 4 bet shove our BB reraise he has to have a stronger hand.
Im thinking he could have something like 66-JJ, or maybe AK, but i think AJ is def a possibility too. Of course I could be way off, im not right that often lol
My logic on this hand, given our stack size vs the rest of the table…
I hate the idea of folding pre flop.
I hate the idea of calling and then folding on the flop.
Therefore I might as well jam it in and at least get some fold equity out of the situation the poker gods have put me in. Seems pretty pointless to comit yourself, as will often happen here, with a call or a standard 3bet.
In all honesty though, as long as we are playing to win this tournament then what exactly do we need to 3bet shove here? Surely thats the real question. A9s+ Ajo+maybe too loose?, ATs+ AQo+ seems right to me.
standard reshove. 3betting looks too strong, and you're too short to flat and play OOP.
random_chu said:
standard reshove. 3betting looks too strong, and you're too short to flat and play OOP.
I'd do the same. Your too short to 3b affectively and flattin OOP isn't going to do too well against this villan. Shove it all in and hope you're not up against AA/KK/QQ/AK.
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