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AQo early in 5way pot.
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May 19, 2011 - 8:40 am
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It was still early, but I had quite a loose table w players calling lots of raises and opening a lot. So here a player in mp limped and i made it 4x and got three callers + the limper. Flop comes ace high w a fd, i cbet and got one caller in sb. Turn completed the flush and i instachecked behind and on the river villain instabet 3/5 pot. 

With 5 players having been in the pot, the probability that someone was on a fd is quite high. So how often should I be calling/folding in this spot?

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15/t30 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

wintop11 (UTG): t2830 94.33 BBs
nemo19701972 (UTG+1): t3045 101.50 BBs
21seconds (UTG+2): t5775 192.50 BBs
Hero (MP1): t4045 134.83 BBs
DanCariello (MP2): t2065 68.83 BBs
vakhi 77 (CO): t3735 124.50 BBs
taikura (BTN): t2860 95.33 BBs
2marlow (SB): t2745 91.50 BBs
seanbhoy24 (BB): t3250 108.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP1 with A of diamonds Q of spades
2 folds, 21seconds calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 1 fold, vakhi 77 calls t120, taikura calls t120, 2marlow calls t105, 1 fold, 21seconds calls t90

Flop: (t630) 2 of spades 9 of clubs A of spades (5 players)
2marlow checks, 21seconds checks, Hero bets t360, vakhi 77 folds, taikura folds, 2marlow calls t360, 21seconds folds

Turn: (t1350) 8 of spades (2 players)
2marlow checks, Hero checks

River: (t1350) 4 of hearts (2 players)
2marlow bets t810, Hero ?

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May 19, 2011 - 10:32 am
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This early/deep with no history/info. I'm prob. folding more often than not. It just feels like a bad spot to call 25% of your stack.

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May 19, 2011 - 10:51 am
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think i would call because you checked the turn and he may be taking a stab thinking you gave up after cbetting. If your wrong and lose youll be down to 2750 = 92bb no big deal

 

Why didnt you fire on the turn? you improved to a flush draw and i think you get value from a lot of Ax hands or 9 and x of diamonds. These tourneys are full of passive fish this early, I would just value bet value bet value bet.

 

 

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May 19, 2011 - 11:18 am
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I thought the probability that someone had a flush was pretty high and I didnt want to bet fold to a shove and take the free card to make the flush myself or crycall a river bet. If i were hu i'd prolly bet the turn aswell, but pot control seemed best to me att. If i bet and had to fold to a reshove that would cost me the same amount of chips than checking the turn and calling a riverbet possibly picking up on a bluff.

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May 19, 2011 - 11:26 am
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did i read it wrong i thought u were heads up on the turn?

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May 19, 2011 - 11:39 am
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hu preflop, but starting from a 5way pot pre… hmm, yeah maybe it doesnt really matter we started w 5 players pre. 5 pre or hu pre shouldnt change villains range that much. as the only caller on the flop he def could have an ace w a weaker kicker. 

think i need to work on being more consistent in playing my hands, cuz I've played simular hands before cbetting the turn when the flush draw completed and got value from weaker aces or re-outdrawing to a bigger flush.

by checking the turn i might also get more value from a 9 or some midpairs w backdoor draws or 10-QQ who played their hand passively.

so how much should i double barrel here or check turn for pot control/deception?

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May 19, 2011 - 9:21 pm
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i think i like checking back turn, but that means you have to call most rivers IMO, especially brick rivers like a 4h

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tank called and was up against 54o for a gutter turned into a bluff

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