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APPT super sat bvb with weak middle pair
hapetimes
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June 9, 2011 - 8:11 am
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My small raise size pre had worked once before bvb. through just over 1 orbit, no hands showdown by me or him.

 

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

KronoPP (UTG): BB = 31.3, t7820
luckud (UTG+1): BB = 20.4, t5100
Rined (UTG+2): BB = 32.3, t8065
gooseloose (MP1): BB = 26.3, t6578
Player0786 (MP2): BB = 21.2, t5300
Ranzii (CO): BB = 22.9, t5725
terrysticks (BTN): BB = 26.5, t6632
Hero (SB): BB = 20.2, t5050
Brrwwwa (BB): BB = 38.0, t9500

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is SB with 9 of hearts 5 of hearts
7 folds, Hero raises to t575, Brrwwwa calls t325

Flop: (t1375) A of clubs 9 of clubs 6 of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t655, Brrwwwa calls t655

Turn: (t2685) 2 of hearts (2 players)
Hero checks, Brrwwwa bets t2250, Hero?

 

Firstly, advice on raise size pre given that it worked before? I was thinking min r may achieve the same as 3x

Secondly, thoughts on flop bet size?

Thirdly, villains range on turn?

I feel like a decent A would repop me pre and any other 9 (K9,J9,T9) would probably check back turn to get to showdown cheap.

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June 9, 2011 - 11:22 am
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I think in general when you are raising sb vs. bb you gotta make it more than your standard 2-2.5x at this point in the tourney. Even though it worked before, you kinda set that as your standard for sb vs. bb in this particular tourney and I dont think it is the optimal bet. I bet 2.5-3x sb vs. bb, anything smaller and bb is getting way too good of odds and gets to play in position vs you.

Flopt bet is fine in my opinion. Think it could be slightly bigger but seems fine.

Villian could have a wide range on the turn. We dont have a ton of information because we checked turn, but then again, it is hard to two barrel with your stack size in this spot (which brings me to think, should we have even got into this pot or just folded pre?). I do think that the villian can have a lot of Arag's, 9x's, and/or some medium to high clubs. Anything in that range can call pre, float flop, and bet/steal turn.

I think this hand is an easy fold pre with a 20bb stack even though bb has folded to you in the past.

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June 10, 2011 - 2:20 pm
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PF 2.5 to 3X is my pref. I think the fact that you already stole once actually makes it harder to do it again here with small raise

Flop size is fine, taking a shot on a scary board.

 

Range is wide and most hand in it beat you (2 clubs, A, better 9s)  I disagree that (K9,J9,T9) necessarily check back if they are afraid of a 4th club

his line makes sense to me with a flush or 2 pair.  The only combos you beat are 1 club draws (say 7c8x) or so. Hey your tried to steal, took a shot on flop, didnt work out, let it go,  no need to risk your tourney life on a read with MP MKicker  IMO.

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