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April 8, 2013
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This hand actually happened before the other one I posted. Villain seems like a competent young player and is fairly agressive. Only a few hands earlier we were involved in a 3 way all in where villain open shoved from mid pos. with 97hh and we call from sb with AhKc and small blind calls for less with AQ. We flop a king and he goes runner runner flush. Didnt cost me a huge percentage of my stack so I brushed it off fairly well.
So blinds are 1200/2400 300 ante and we are about 80k effective. Villain limps utg and we make it 7k from the hijack with JJ and villain flats. Im thinking his range could be alot of pairs and perhaps a few big ones like AA or KK.
Flop is 2 5 J. Villain checks and we bet 8k. I think he peels alot with most pairs in this spot so I think betting top set here isnt a bad play. He then raises to 22k. This is where I have a decision to make. Do I flat and slowplay or do I just jam. The one thing I liked about jamming in this spot is that its basically the only play that allows him to make a mistake with a pair like 1010,99,88. If I flat he most likely just shuts down and I think his range is composed mostly of pairs. At the very least, there isnt much else he could have that check raises for value and then doesnt get it in.
What do you think his range looks like and how would you respond to the check raise?
August 23, 2012
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You should really provide stack sizes for this hand because they are crucial. With that said, I think his XR range is mostly air and slowplayed QQ+. I'm not sure if he XRs mid-PPs, but that is a play I wouldn't expect from a competent player. Against an assumed range of overpairs and air, calling with your value hands is clearly best. We want to encourage him to continue with his bluffs.
I disagree that villain will view a call as stronger than a 3b shove. There are very few hands that we can be semibluffing with a shove so I think it is more likely that he will view a call as a float than a shove as air.
I probably wouldn't have much of a 3b shove range on this flop. The few hands that I think would play best as 3bs are straightdraws such as A4, A3, and 43s. Even then, if your assumption that he will view your call as strength is true, they would play better as calls and jam turns when checked to. In this spot JJ is the hand we should slowplay the most because we block so much of his value range. I'd call the XR and check back most turns when checked to. We may induce him to bluff rivers that are not good for our percieved range of mid-PPs and ace highs.
May 1, 2013
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i prefer calling flop raise not jamming although ur right that jamming doesnt look strong at all so could get called light but possible hes bluffing or semi bluffing ax hands so id call and check turn to him hope hr barrells off.
May 1, 2013
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ps his raise doesnt always mean he has a value hand like qq kk aa
July 3, 2010
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Call 100%
Jamming and thinking you'll be called by underpairs is being way too optimistic, in my opinion.
He could be making a move with a couple overcards here and we end up getting paid a lot if he pairs up vs. probably never getting called if we shove flop unless we set over set him or he somehow has AJ which is extremely unlikely.
February 3, 2013
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Call 100%
Jamming and thinking you'll be called by underpairs is being way too optimistic, in my opinion.
True. Calling and hope for a good turncard, that improves his hand 😉 Like an Ace, if he 3bet blufing here with A high, just on the fact the board is so dry. Maybe he is 3betting with a smaller pocket like 66-TT… if he does this, than hope for a turncard that pairs the board or just a random small one.
If you just call his 3bet, a bad player may think you have AK-AQ and looking for an Ace or a King on turn. If the turn comes 22-TT, itll be hard to fold his small pocket anyway. Like FkCoolers told, ur thinking is too optimistic 😉 … I think if he calls a shove with 55-TT, than on a small unimportant rivercard after u just called his 3bet (maybe with a bit of timebanking on flopcall)
August 23, 2012
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Raising postflop is only a 2b. The big blind is considered bet #1, an open raise is a 2b, and a reraise is a 3b and so on. In order to get a 3b postflop there has to be a bet, a raise, and a reraise.
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