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Absolute Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds – 9 players
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GIVINAWAY (BTN): t2285 22.85 BBs
TANKJOB (SB): t4900 49 BBs
DANGERDAN10 (BB): t3635 36.35 BBs
CARPE_MANANA (UTG): t4617 46.17 BBs
KVKAT18 (UTG+1): t7615 76.15 BBs
SOMEDUMBFISH (UTG+2): t4960 49.60 BBs
Hero (MP1): t9415 94.15 BBs
LUCKYLISE17 (MP2): t8627 86.27 BBs
DRAGOOON128 (CO): t8962 89.62 BBs
Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP1 with 3
3
1 fold, KVKAT18 calls t100, 1 fold, Hero calls t100, 4 folds, DANGERDAN10 checks
Flop: (t350) T
3
4 (3 players)
DANGERDAN10 checks, KVKAT18 checks, Hero bets t225, DANGERDAN10 folds, KVKAT18 calls t225
Turn: (t800) 5 (2 players)
KVKAT18 checks, Hero bets t666, KVKAT18 raises to t2798
Thoughts?….WWUD?
tough spot but i still fist pump get it in because i don't fold sets even though he hit a gutter 😛
yeah thats one of those crap spots, I think you have to shove there your infront most times, just hope he is drawing or just gone mad,
But its all in for me it stinks like a draw to me.
Yeah can't assume he has A2 or 67 here. You have alot of fold equity and a chance to to chip up early in the tourn.
One suggestion, probably would have raised pre with 33 this deep. 
I doubt we have any FE here… but I'd still get it in…hoping he has Axcc- or a horribly played overpair.
On the turn when 3bets me for < 4x FE is out the window at this level, he is never folding. 4's, 5's, and small connecters are in his range and me being as deep as I was I wanted a better spot so I folded and he tabled 10's which I thought was a bit strange to limp in with.
P.S. I posted these hands because they are the evolution of my game, I've never been able to make folds like this. It feels just as good if not better than winning a hand for me.
I think this is a good fold. He cant really have a hand that we beat right there can he? Maybe ATcc A5cc, or possibly a terribly played overpair – but im guessing you would know if he plays his overpairs this way. and i doubt he checks the nut draw twice especially if he has a pair and draw.
It looks like 44 or 55?
Easy to say now that i know what he had.. and lol i dunno if my game has evolved enough to fold here though
well done
hapetimes said:
I think this is a good fold. He cant really have a hand that we beat right there can he? Maybe ATcc A5cc, or possibly a terribly played overpair – but im guessing you would know if he plays his overpairs this way. and i doubt he checks the nut draw twice especially if he has a pair and draw.
It looks like 44 or 55?
Easy to say now that i know what he had.. and lol i dunno if my game has evolved enough to fold here though
well done
If you fold all your sets on any turn raise when only random draws got there you're going to be real easy to run overi n the long run. Don't be results oriented. Also yes, why are you limping 33, that's so weak~!
October 6, 2010
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tbh this is a super horrible fold – coolers happen, dont overanalyse things.
bennymacca said:
tbh this is a super horrible fold – coolers happen, dont overanalyse things.
Super horrible? I'm pretty sure my read was spot on, I folded a hand strong hand when I was beat based on the information I gathered! What do you think he raises like that with on the turn at that level?! Also, as I understand the word “cooler” it refers to a hand that is too close to get away from with your opponent getting the better of it, which leaves the term open for interpretation I don't find this a cooler obv. I wish a pro would chime in on this.
gobsmacked1 said:
I don't know why you would assume I just fold to turn bets with my sets all the time, I fold sets probably 2% of the time. I wasn't worried about draws as much as a set honestly and I think you have a misunderstanding of results oriented. In the connotation you just used it you would be implying that just because someone wins the main event it doesnt necessarily correlate to them being any good at poker? I think that phrase describes playing well and losing? Finally, I agree raising is best pre but as played I stand by that fold you lose your chips and chock it up to a cooler then rail my FT.
October 6, 2010
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sorry, super horrible is probably a bit strong, i apologise for that wording, but i dont think i ever fold a set on boards where only gutshot straights get there and there are still lots of top pair and flush draw hands in villain's range.
i think villain has something like a T with a club or A5cc or even something like 34 or 45 a lot more than a set in this spot, especially since there wasn't a raise preflop
it is extremely weird that villain rolls TT here, i think that this is apart of his range very rarely, i would think 44 and 55 are definitely in villains range, as well as proably A2, but all in all i think you have massive equity against this range and i would feel pretty happy about getting it in on this turn (and hoping to fade a club mostly)
gobsmacked1 said:
hapetimes said:
I think this is a good fold. He cant really have a hand that we beat right there can he? Maybe ATcc A5cc, or possibly a terribly played overpair – but im guessing you would know if he plays his overpairs this way. and i doubt he checks the nut draw twice especially if he has a pair and draw.
It looks like 44 or 55?
Easy to say now that i know what he had.. and lol i dunno if my game has evolved enough to fold here though
well done
If you fold all your sets on any turn raise when only random draws got there you're going to be real easy to run overi n the long run. Don't be results oriented. Also yes, why are you limping 33, that's so weak~!
Yeah i already said it that i doubt i coulda folded myself..
lol i should have answered this before i saw what the villain had and im sure it woulda gone along the lines of 'i snap jam the rest of my stack in..'
bennymacca said:
sorry, super horrible is probably a bit strong, i apologise for that wording, but i dont think i ever fold a set on boards where only gutshot straights get there and there are still lots of top pair and flush draw hands in villain's range.
i think villain has something like a T with a club or A5cc or even something like 34 or 45 a lot more than a set in this spot, especially since there wasn't a raise preflop
it is extremely weird that villain rolls TT here, i think that this is apart of his range very rarely, i would think 44 and 55 are definitely in villains range, as well as proably A2, but all in all i think you have massive equity against this range and i would feel pretty happy about getting it in on this turn (and hoping to fade a club mostly)
This was an upper end mid stake tourny (15K GTD 100$) I gauged the players to have decent poker competency in the knowledge that we study, with that I try to sort through all of the weaker plays especially at the 50/100 blinds level. That train of thought eliminates alot of weaker hands like a2 and probably 67 I mean if they were going to play them wouldn't they raise? The hands that are often limped like that are small pocket pairs with the intent of setting someone and that in-part is how I came to my conclusion. If villain wanted to take that line with some kind of draw why would he raise that much it just didn't mesh in my mind because he could of accomplished the same with raising so much less? I could of definitely been good here often enough to make the call and with less chips, BB's, or thought about the hand I probably would have put it in, but I have nearly 100BB and it is hardly an hour into the tourny I didn't feel good about it and wanted to better spot and made what I think was a great lay down. Yes, TT threw me a little I thought it was weird as well and thank you apology accepted.
I just get it in here. If he hit a straight or has a bigger set its just a cooler. If he does have the straight you have outs but not convinced your beat. shove em and pray imo.
Get it in. his bet sizing looks like a made 2 pair hand that wants yout o go away. if he oversets or has a straight, cooler IMHO.
Ya, I can't see myself ever folding here. If he has a better hand it's really just a cooler. So many draws and two pair hands in his range I think we are missing a great opportunity to chip up here.
July 3, 2010
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Your opponent is a losing player, down $9,000 over 310 mtt's on Sharkscope.
Never fold to him.
The scenario changes if this hand against a consistent winning player because I do think you see 76s/76o a shit ton here.
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