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November 4, 2013
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Thanks for the responses to my last 6 max SnG bubble question. I realize these are rather simple questions, but it helps a lot to discuss them.
This game is $5, turbo, 3 left. I am the small stack and am of course in push/fold mode. I have 10 BB and the other two players have about 40. I've been more quiet than I'd like, but haven't had many good opportunities to play back at the action. I have been shoving the hands I have been playing for a few orbits now.
The villain is AdMagnet, a pretty tough opponent, after 68 hands playing 32/16/4.0 limping 11, stealing 37, folding to steal 56, restealing 7, folding to resteal 40, calling resteal 60. A min raise to open steal was common.
Merge Network Turbo – $5.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50.00/t100.00 Blinds – 3 players – View hand 2378315
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
UxGotxKTFO (SB): t3875.00 38.75 BBs
Hero (BB): t1040.00 10.40 BBs
AdMagnet5000 (BTN): t4085.00 40.85 BBs
Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with 4
4
AdMagnet5000 raises to t200.00, 1 fold, action on Hero.
My quesiton here: Is a stop n go appropriate? I thought about doing it for quite a few moments. I don't have much FE on the resteal. I do have some, but he would really have to be at the bottom of his range to fold. I feel like I could get more folds by pulling a stop n go as I will have the first move after the flop. Also, my hand is likely to be happier on the flop than on the river vs. any high card unpaired hand. If he misses the flop with high cards he will fold to my shove for 800. If he has a mid pair better than mine, he really can fold to a flop of AKT, which I will shove as well.
What would you guys do? Is this again simply a shove?
November 7, 2013
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Jam.
I don't think we have enough FE. And 44 is too strong to fold BvB on a 10BB effective stack.
November 4, 2013
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Do you mean we don't have enough FE if we call and jam any flop or do you mean we don't have enough FE in general? I agree with the second statement.
I just want to clarify that I'm not considering folding here, but considering calling his min bet, pausing a normal amount of time on any flop, and shoving any flop.
April 29, 2013
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I think a stop and go play would be very appropriate here. His steal % isn't that high (only 9 attempts out of 16 chances), so I think he's weighted more towards open/call hands in this spot. Calling and losing would only cost him 25% of his stack, probably something that he would think he can bounce back from.
You didn't say what his fold to donk bet, fold to cbet or his cbet stats are, but the flop 8bb shove should net you this 6bb pot quite often. Hopefully he's a rather fit or fold player.
And if you hit a set, ck and let him bet into you.
November 18, 2013
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Jam.
I don’t think we have enough FE. And 44 is too strong to fold BvB on a 10BB effective stack.
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August 25, 2012
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This is a mandatory shove. My advice would be to stop thinking about incorporating a stop-n-go range into your 10bb game until you know your push/fold and reshove ranges like the back of your hand. You definitely have fold equity on a shove and your hand has good equity vs his calling range.
A side note – the sample size of stats you have on the villain is not enough for anything besides his basic PFR/VPIP/3BET stats to mean anything. Looking at his steal percentage, fold to resteal percentage, etc etc is just over-complicating a very simple hand. You have 10bb – just keep it simple and shove. I'm shoving 22+ A2s+ A5o+ 98s+ JTo+ or something like that here.
November 4, 2013
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Thanks for the responses.
I did in fact shove. The results were messing with me a bit, as he called, the flop was TT2, the turn was J and he showed down KJ. It turns out that this time, the call shove line may have worked for me.
I trust the voices here though, and will have confidence in shoving this.
Ginger, when you say hold off on incorporating stop n go into the 10BB game, do you mean that another stack size is better to start doing it with, or that 10BB is a good stack to do it with, but one shouldn't do it at all until push/folding is automatic?
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