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Another 4b/fold/(or call?) spot
Gareth Chantler
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There are 200 left in the 33$ Miniftops event 20 out of 12,000 runners. Still tons of soft spots (sound familiar?). Guy on my left is the best player, in my estimation, of my opponents. 

 

Big blind is playing 11/9/2 over 123 hands and is intent on blinding out. 

Small blind is playing 17/14/0 over 35 hands. 

BTN is playing 23/17/12 over 64 hands and has already three-bet me (and I folded quickly and painlessly) 2 orbits ago in CO v HJ. 

In the 64 hands BTN has seen, I have folded to four 3bets and four-bet all-in once w AKhh (won). I have been opening actively but not maniacally. They are playing 1 table, they went deep in a 55$ tournament on full tilt but busted that about 30 minutes before this hand. 

 

We get paid 184 now, no four-figures until last 27 (though I didn't know payouts at the time). Big money up top obv.

I kind of want to rip it. 

 

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1000 – 9 players – View hand 2194494
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG+2: BB = 18.1, t180894
MP1: BB = 12.4, t123834
MP2: BB = 38.0, t380474
GC (CO): BB = 26.1, t261359
BTN: BB = 53.2, t531576
SB: BB = 39.3, t393208
BB: BB = 7.1, t71372
UTG: BB = 9.2, t92497
UTG+1: BB = 19.4, t193900

Pre Flop: (t24000) GC is CO with J of clubs Q of diamonds
5 folds, GC raises to t20000, BTN raises to t46687, 1 fold, BB requests TIME, 1 fold, GC?

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this one is like the good old situation with the devil on my right shoulder and the angel on my left one.

 

Devil: he is good, spot is good, he abuses you. stack is optimal. ship it

 

Angel: why bottering and risking your tourney life if the overall field is week

 

think piling and folding are both very viable options. recently i do choose a lot the less variance roots and maybe fold….

 

…or call pre and evaluate

 

cheers

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im pretty torn. the advantages of flatting is that we can flop pairs and bluff catch his barrels. and we flop some ok draws on some boards. folding seems ok too since our stack is so strong.

Shipping is totally viable and seems like the best stack size to do it with,

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I'm all in!!!!!!!!!

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any reason we're not clicking this back to say 81k?…. if I've got a liberal 3b'or clicking the BTN to me I'm tank clicking a 4b to him…. maybe a leak?

Winners FIND a WAY

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Foucault said:

I'm all in!!!!!!!!!

You get called by AK. You flop ATX. You brick out. You are out of the tournament. Do you want to start a new game? (Y/N)

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jdogloves46 said:

any reason we're not clicking this back to say 81k?…. if I've got a liberal 3b'or clicking the BTN to me I'm tank clicking a 4b to him…. maybe a leak?

Well, couple reasons …

1. We can't call a jam

2. We could get flatted and miss the flop

If we jam, sure, we're not called by worse ever. But at least we're not folding the hands we're flipping against by allowing them to ship over the top vs. us.

So I think it's just a jam/fold based on the standard set of variables you use to figure out that stuff. 

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