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Am I ever folding this??
RicMar
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August 10, 2010 - 8:48 am
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Is folding an option on the flop with my stack size, just above a M of 10 with top pair top kicker??

 

Full Tilt Poker $2 $0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150/t300 Blinds + t25 – 9 players

Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Ustgagch (BTN): BB = 36.8, t11040, M = 16.36

alvizinho (SB): BB = 20.2, t6049, M = 8.96

Caannddyy (BB): BB = 45.5, t13660, M = 20.24

Andy_Omsen7 (UTG): BB = 31.7, t9505, M = 14.08

misclick000 (UTG+1): BB = 49.6, t14890, M = 22.06

korea112 (UTG+2): BB = 43.8, t13131, M = 19.45

Kenny Colhao (MP1): BB = 25.7, t7700, M = 11.41

ColitisBoy (MP2): BB = 34.0, t10185, M = 15.09

junky621 (CO): BB = 56.2, t16848, M = 24.96

Pre Flop: (t675) Kenny Colhao is MP1 with T of diamonds A of spades

3 folds, Kenny Colhao raises to t685, ColitisBoy calls t685, 1 fold, Ustgagch calls t685, alvizinho calls t535, 1 fold

Flop: (t3265) T of spades 9 of hearts 6 of diamonds (4 players)

alvizinho bets t5339 all in, Kenny Colhao requests TIME, Kenny Colhao raises to t6990 all in, ColitisBoy folds, Ustgagch folds

Turn: (t13943) 6 of clubs (2 players – 2 are all in)

River: (t13943) J of diamonds (2 players – 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t13943

alvizinho shows T of clubs J of hearts (two pair, Jacks and Tens)

Kenny Colhao shows T of diamonds A of spades (two pair, Tens and Sixes)

alvizinho wins t13943

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August 10, 2010 - 8:58 am
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Nope.  Never.

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August 10, 2010 - 9:57 am
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Please dont post the result with the hand…it may change peoples opinion on how to play the hand.  When this guy donks over bet jam into us I just dont think its that strong….a set, two pair or an over pair I believe check raises. I put him on a draw 90% and 10% a weak pair.  I would have gotten my chips in as well..  As we all know you made the correct call and he sucked out.

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+1 to what JDog said.

His donk jam is JQ and a single pair so often and you have all of that beat/crushed.  

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JDOG1645 said:

Please dont post the result with the hand…it may change peoples opinion on how to play the hand.  When this guy donks over bet jam into us I just dont think its that strong….a set, two pair or an over pair I believe check raises. I put him on a draw 90% and 10% a weak pair.  I would have gotten my chips in as well..  As we all know you made the correct call and he sucked out.


 

I think this is a really important concept to think about and understand when playing in tourneys. Being able to look at the board texture and then interpret where you think these types of players are is a really great way to chip up in huge increments, especially with a TAG style. The donk lead/giant overbet jam is so often a sign of weakness and poor play that it can be highly profitable to call as long as you have connected strongly with the flop. You don't want to get wild calling these moves off with air (or the ole' Timbey Sauce 🙂 ) as you are going to get slapped for your effort, but as long as you connect this is a great chip up methodology.

 

As played, this is the exact situation you are looking for, some guy who has hit TP/weak kicker who can't get away from his hand. Oh well he sucked out, reload another and try try again.

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