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All-in with Aces

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May 8, 2013 - 9:59 pm

> Merge Network $16 NLH – [Bounty] No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150.00/t300.00 Blinds + t30.00 – 9 players – View hand 2204094
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Hi everyone this is my first HH post. How horrible of me to shove in my chips on the turn knowing that someone could have a flush. My thought at the time was I think it would be weak to just check, fold turn.
HemiRacer426 (UTG+2): BB = 28.4, t8532
allinhamagrif (MP1): BB = 26.6, t7979
wacko95 (MP2): BB = 32.7, t9824
bryanboyle (CO): BB = 58.3, t17490
Birdman1965 (BTN): BB = 46.8, t14038
letitridenride (SB): BB = 16.9, t5085
IADDICTEDI (BB): BB = 5.8, t1735
baskman0001 (UTG): BB = 5.6, t1693
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 30.2, t9055

Pre Flop: (t720) Hero is UTG+1 with A of diamonds A of spades
1 fold, Hero raises to t600.00, 1 fold, allinhamagrif calls t600, wacko95 calls t600, 1 fold, Birdman1965 calls t600, 2 folds

Flop: (t3120) 5 of hearts J 8 of clubs (4 players)
Hero bets t2340.00, allinhamagrif calls t2340, wacko95 calls t2340, Birdman1965 folds

Turn: (t10140) 9 of hearts (3 players)
Hero bets t6085 all in, allinhamagrif calls t5009 all in, wacko95 folds

River: (t20158) 6 of diamonds (2 players – 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t20158
allinhamagrif shows A of hearts Q (Flush Ace High)
Hero shows A of diamonds A of spades (Pair of Aces)
allinhamagrif wins t20158.00

danrose29

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May 9, 2013 - 4:03 am

i honestly dont like shoving turn here with two black aces, i know your short stacked but id think about check fold turn completes str8 draw and flush draw and i suppose theres decent chance one of them has it, you could be drawing dead vs some hands, id let it go but i dont know if thats right play.

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May 9, 2013 - 12:04 pm

I'd definitely check-fold turn. With so many people calling flop it's pretty much a guarantee someone hit this turn. If you think about it, there are actually very few good turn cards for you. That makes me want to try to c/r all-in on the flop, when you know your hand is good enough to get all in, rather than bet and end up having to make a turn decision.

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May 10, 2013 - 5:47 am

Foucault said:

I'd definitely check-fold turn. With so many people calling flop it's pretty much a guarantee someone hit this turn. If you think about it, there are actually very few good turn cards for you. That makes me want to try to c/r all-in on the flop, when you know your hand is good enough to get all in, rather than bet and end up having to make a turn decision.

Yeah, and that is one of if not the absolute worst card on the turn since 2 straights get there on top of every flush and we have no redraw.

Our cbet is also a huge size so when called in multiple spots you almost have to assume there's one draw and one made hand of sorts.

I think we also need to cbet smaller if we cbet, but I like Andrew's suggestion of check/jam much better in this hand.

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May 12, 2013 - 1:28 am

HU turn is a jam, 3 way I think it might actually be a c/f as gross as it is.

I do like the idea of checking flop especially if we know the villains in hand(especially villain on btn) is aggro. There are a lot of tricky turns in this hand and your rarely getting folds, and msot of the time jacks are betting the flop anyway, so we can expect a c/r to play well.

I also hate sizing on flop, you are not really gaining anything by betting that size, its still bascially a two street hand(aka bet flop and shove turn) no matter what your flop sizing is, so betting bigger isnt really necessary. I prefer betting liek 1.7k here. We can also induce some more hands this way.

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May 12, 2013 - 11:17 pm

Agree with everything that has been put up so far. Love your way of thinking Andrew smile

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May 13, 2013 - 9:13 pm

I usually bet a little smaller on the flop but with so many people in the hand and a flush draw out there, I fired a bigger c-bet. I didn't want anybody drawing too cheap. Then the heart peels on the turn. Maybe I should have jammed the flop instead of jamming the turn or river leaving me a pot size bet left.

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May 15, 2013 - 2:53 am

Do you know how expoitable folding AAs here is from a game theory prospective? Any player who knew your strategy in this spot could bluff you off your hand everytime. You have got one of the strongest hands you can have for your range here.

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May 16, 2013 - 2:38 am

Check/raise get it in on flop is best here with so many callers IMO . And also if no1 bets you can lose less on bad turns than you will cbetting and going broke sho ing bad turns.

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