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October 21, 2012
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Merge Network PM #1 $60K Gtd No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1000.00/t2000.00 Blinds + t200.00 – 8 players – View hand 2094042
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
kkbubbletea (SB): BB = 20.7, t41355
JinxyCatt (BB): BB = 35.0, t70040
Hero (UTG): BB = 20.1, t40261
moemoney11 (UTG+1): BB = 61.6, t123114
whyurazemeboo (MP1): BB = 26.2, t52350
mathieupoker (MP2): BB = 11.9, t23858
IBEX53 (CO): BB = 15.6, t31110
Bodybagzzz (BTN): BB = 5.1, t10298
Pre Flop: (t4600) Hero is UTG with A
K
Hero raises to t4000.00, 6 folds, JinxyCatt calls t2000
Flop: (t10600) 2
Q
5 (2 players)
JinxyCatt checks, Hero ?
Villain is a very good reg who will defend and float just about any two in the BB to take it away on later streets. I just saw him do this with 53o.
1. Should I raise bigger or just shove against guy like this?
2. As played, do I cbet and if so, what do I do on the turn when he calls?
May 30, 2012
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definitely dont shove, having him defend super wide oop is great news,
i prob cbet 4111 and check back on non hearts intending to call a river bet on good runouts.
id also check back on A/K non hearts intending to raise or bet river when he stabs.
i would double barrel hearts since he will float all combos with a heart. and check back river
January 22, 2013
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against this villain we need to think about what we want to barrel
November 19, 2012
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rumsey182 said:
against this villain we need to think about what we want to barrel
is this comment a level?
January 22, 2013
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TiltedEV said:
rumsey182 said:
against this villain we need to think about what we want to barrel
is this comment a level?
loxxii said:
2. As played, do I cbet and if so, what do I do on the turn when he calls?
No, if he is going to call a lot and raise a lot we need to work out some counter strategies to what he is going to attempt to exploit.
You asked should we shove the flop, for a 2 PSR why would you fold him down to the top of his range thats a ton of risk to take?
You seem more worried about a call and then being stuck ott, so what textures do you bet call what do you c/c (assuming money goes in on the turn and that A high is likely ahead of his ranges) and if not why did we cbet?
I have a hard time being like “oh just do this” because i don't know your dynamic with villain, saying he is a tricky good reg doesn't mean a lot to me bc your the one who will have a better idea of game flow and a better chance at anticipating what his tendancies and possible sizing and timing tells may be.
In a vaccum i would cbet fold to anything beyond, but that is exploitable and it sounds like this guy can exploit you.
sorry for a long none answer btw
October 21, 2012
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duggs said:
definitely dont shove, having him defend super wide oop is great news,
i prob cbet 4111 and check back on non hearts intending to call a river bet on good runouts.
id also check back on A/K non hearts intending to raise or bet river when he stabs.
i would double barrel hearts since he will float all combos with a heart. and check back river
Against this guy, it's hard to define a good run out. He is calling the cbet 100% of the time I think because he is not flop dependent. He is waiting for me to check the turn so he can fire the river.
My plan was to check the flop and call the turn which I think effectively gets us to the same spot. The downside is that he gets to control the turn bet size. The upside is it prevents him from check raising the flop which he is capable of doing light.
Looking at it now, I think I like cbetting if I am willing to shove on a flop check raise. I guess vs him, I should play AK like AA.
December 25, 2012
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loxxii said:
duggs said:
definitely dont shove, having him defend super wide oop is great news,
i prob cbet 4111 and check back on non hearts intending to call a river bet on good runouts.
id also check back on A/K non hearts intending to raise or bet river when he stabs.
i would double barrel hearts since he will float all combos with a heart. and check back river
Against this guy, it's hard to define a good run out. He is calling the cbet 100% of the time I think because he is not flop dependent. He is waiting for me to check the turn so he can fire the river.
My plan was to check the flop and call the turn which I think effectively gets us to the same spot. The downside is that he gets to control the turn bet size. The upside is it prevents him from check raising the flop which he is capable of doing light.
Looking at it now, I think I like cbetting if I am willing to shove on a flop check raise. I guess vs him, I should play AK like AA.
January 15, 2013
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Wow, tough table draw! Knowing that this is a table of competent regs, including Jinxy (which I think you did), who are excellent post flop players, I actually might shove pre here to take the play away from them. Bigdog actually shoved a stack quite similar to this a couple of times in the recent 1K vids, and though the “book” says this is too big to shove, I like it against a table of solid regs such as this so that I don't get owned post flop with this stack and I get to see all five cards with my A-K.
October 21, 2012
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I agree mike. I definitely shove pre with AQo here. I dont think 20bb is too much. I would shove AKo had I been shoving a lot lately, but I had been card dead except for opening KK in EP a few hands earlier and getting no action.
Looking at the short stacks just caused limp/shove to cross my mind. I dont think it is great, but I dont mind doing a pros vs cons on it.
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