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AKo really deep in a midstage of a tournament.
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April 7, 2011 - 7:44 am
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Hi good fellas of TPE,

Sorry for not having a HH or anything of that sort. I was driving home today from work and was recalling some of the stuff that i've learnt from TPE. I started to recall bigdog's play during 1 of the midstakes vid that he was doing. (Im going to be really vague here, can't recall the exact details) but in it bigdog was approx. 150 bb deep and he opened really light and was facing a 3 bet from a reg who is really deep as well (150 bb ++).  Bigdog saw this as a 3 bet steal move and 4 bet to take the pot away. He explained that he has some generalisation of players who are deep trying to steal away raises from other deep players and took the chance to 4 bet light. Well it worked anyway. This leads me to my question. Say if im the villain facing bigdog ( and i've got no clue what sort of player bigdog is) and i'm facing a 4 bet pre with AKo or AQo, what should i really be doing? isit ok to be flatting here? Should i be 5 bet – calling? Pardon me if this is a really dumb question as i'm a week old TPE member trying to grasped as much MTT knowledge as possible. Thanks

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April 7, 2011 - 8:01 am
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Forgot to add : I feel that when facing an unknown, His range here will be really polarized to Either QQ, KK , AA and sometimes AK or Complete garbage. Don't really know if anyone in the lower stakes MTT is capable of pulling moves like what bigdog is doing. Does flatting here seems alittle weak?? Thoughts please. Thanks 🙂

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April 7, 2011 - 8:48 am
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if i have position then i'd sometimes just be flatting the open and would be flatting the 4bet if i 3bet (depending on sizing).

 

if i were OOP then i'd most likely be flatting the first raise.

 

flatting a 4bet in position 150BB deep with AKo is not weak. especially when the alternative is to get 150BB in PF with an equity disadvantage.

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April 7, 2011 - 11:26 am
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Thanks Hagbard for ur reply!! I feel that flatting is weak cause if he's raising light and c-betting on most flop [ we're gonna only hit the flop 1/3 of the time ( am i right to say this??) ], and assuming we play st8 forward after, we'll lose chips in the long run. But yes i do see where you're coming from. Rather flat than lose 150bb pre. Makes sense. THanks once again! 🙂

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April 8, 2011 - 1:35 pm
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I'd just like to add that if you're 3betting preflop 150bb deep without already knowing what you're going to do in response to a 4bet, you aren't thinking everything through in advance and this is a big problem.

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