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AK UTG1 facing river raise...
lapp3r30
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August 16, 2013 - 11:26 pm
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Blinds 60/120… Early in the Big $3 on PS.  This guy showed down a couple hands.  He played them relatively passively.  I looked at the way he played after and looks to be pretty solid.  He had been pretty active last couple orbits… I really thought he would be calling his whole range on the river.  I discount sets a bit thinking the turn would be the spot for him to raise…  But not out of the question… Not many flushes in his range other than nut flush… I think he can raise 2 pair, flushes and sets… Puts me behind that range… He could have some bluffs but seems super unlikely… As far as bet sizing I think it's ok..???

 

Thoughts???

 

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t/t Blinds – 8 players – View hand 2285340
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BB: t6030 1 BBs – VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 14, AF: 1.0, Hands: 17
UTG: t2975 1 BBs – VPIP: 27, PFR: 13, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15
Hero (UTG+1): t7690 1 BBs – VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 49948
MP1: t3515 1 BBs – VPIP: 13, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15
MP2: t8135 1 BBs – VPIP: 15, PFR: 8, 3B: 7, AF: 0.0, Hands: 26
CO: t8772 1 BBs – VPIP: 36, PFR: 26, 3B: 21, AF: 0.3, Hands: 39
BTN: t5988 1 BBs – VPIP: 8, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 39
SB: t2270 1 BBs – VPIP: 26, PFR: 8, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 39

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is UTG+1 with A of spades K of spades
1 fold, Hero raises to t299, 2 folds, CO calls t299, 3 folds

Flop: (t598) 3 of diamonds 7 of clubs K of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t299, CO calls t299

Turn: (t1196) A of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t599, CO calls t599

River: (t2394) 9 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t1199, CO raises to t4440, Hero ???

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August 17, 2013 - 2:09 am
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I love the bet sizing on the river 55% pot is really good. As for the hand our our range here is completely uncapped we would play 77s,33s,AAs,KKs,99s, flushes and 2 pairs the same way or im assuming you would. We are at the middle of our range so i think we can make a standard $3 MTT bet/fold on the river with this part of our range. As for his range, 99s, 77s, 33s make some sense but most villians at this level will tell you about their sets on the flop or turn.

 

The most likely hands that make sense in his range are Kx suited hands that made backdoor flushes like  KJ,KQ,K,10,  and gutters that made flushes like 5,6,4,6 etc. So i think the river is fold in a $3 MTT we have 55bbs left and we can find better spots. 

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i aggree with red vulture it kinda feels like a fold to me a lot of time i think it will be a slow played flush or just as likely i suppose backdoor flush, in a micro tourny it is possible also that he is shoving a worse two pair combo on the river a7 a3 a9, but when this happens to me in small buy in mtts im tempted to fold cause he probably got there plus you still have good chips if you fold

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August 17, 2013 - 6:40 am
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meant slow played set not flush

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August 17, 2013 - 8:20 am
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The only thing I'd add that hasn't been said is to say I think your turn bet sizing is way too small.

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The only thing I’d add that hasn’t been said is to say I think your turn bet sizing is way too small.

Can you expand? What range do you have him on that we can bet bigger? Or what hands are you looking to bet bigger and get called by?

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With two flush draws on the board now I'm just look to charge more for people to draw. 

I think the only 2 pair hand he can have is A7. He can have 2 different sets on the turn – 3's and 7's. 

I think a lot of times he can have a club draw or 7x with backdoor diamonds. 

I think I am betting closer to 800 on the turn and all the hands I mentioned continue in the hand. The weaker stuff that could be in his range is probably folding to most turn bets, I think. Hands like 55 that floated once, etc. 

So basically I don't expect to get 3 streets of value from much at all so I just want to make sure we're not laying to good of a price to be outdrawn. 

And if draws missed on the river I'd most likely check sometimes to give our villain a chance to bluff. 

I'm tempted to c/c this river, too. I'm still not sure what hands will call 3 barrels that we beat – it's a real narrow range, in my opinion. Something like the Ace of clubs with a medium kicker. I don't think a pair of kings calls 3 times. 

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Well put… Totally understand… I think you’re right about not getting 3 streets often. I’ll post results at the end of the weekend…

I wonder if a check call isn’t best since he’s gonna river barrel some bluffs, worse 2 pair fairly often, but also all the hands that beat us, sets and flushes. We obviously beat the majority of that range… If we barrel I guess were looking to get value from worse 2 pair? Floated Aces?

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Sick spot – from his VPIP he has a wide range on the flop so when he calls your flop bet I'd range him on a flush draw, inside st8 draw (45 suited), KQ, KJ, K 10, K 9, Ax suited and medium to small pairs. With his high 3B % I don't put him on AK or AQ.

 

I prefer a check call on the river, I agree with FKCoolers that it gives him a chance to bluff, and if you do check it increases the likelihood that he will have a hand you can beat when he bets. I don't see many hands he will call a triple barrel with….

 

….you may have the best hand sometimes here when he shoves but I like to find a fold here.

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lapp3r30 said:

Well put… Totally understand… I think you're right about not getting 3 streets often. I'll post results at the end of the weekend…

I wonder if a check call isn't best since he's gonna river barrel some bluffs, worse 2 pair fairly often, but also all the hands that beat us, sets and flushes. We obviously beat the majority of that range… If we barrel I guess were looking to get value from worse 2 pair? Floated Aces?

Not going for 3 streets of value is terrible. You can get called by Kx, 2 pairs people will call you with the weirdest of stuff in these things trust me people hardly ever fold top pair even when it looks like you can never be bluffing. 

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lapp3r30 said:

Well put… Totally understand… I think you’re right about not getting 3 streets often. I’ll post results at the end of the weekend…

I wonder if a check call isn’t best since he’s gonna river barrel some bluffs, worse 2 pair fairly often, but also all the hands that beat us, sets and flushes. We obviously beat the majority of that range… If we barrel I guess were looking to get value from worse 2 pair? Floated Aces?

Not going for 3 streets of value is terrible. You can get called by Kx, 2 pairs people will call you with the weirdest of stuff in these things trust me people hardly ever fold top pair even when it looks like you can never be bluffing. 

So you call? That’s fine. I think 3 streets of value is fine… Which is what I went for… But what’s your play when he raises?

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