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AK utg raise facing button flat and SB squeeze
HawksForLife
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September 26, 2010 - 2:51 pm
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Full Tilt Poker $22,000 Guarantee (1r 1a) No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Ironstorm09 (BTN): t5905 73.81 BBs
The Quietwinner (SB): t7030 87.88 BBs
JPips (BB): t6345 79.31 BBs
corkycandy (UTG): t3445 43.06 BBs
HawksForLife2 (UTG+1): t6140 76.75 BBs
THE UTE (UTG+2): t4555 56.94 BBs
mav3rikk (MP1): t6315 78.94 BBs
Druen (MP2): t4280 53.50 BBs
rwga21 (CO): t4300 53.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) HawksForLife2 is UTG+1 with A of clubs K of spades
1 fold, HawksForLife2 raises to t200, 4 folds, Ironstorm09 calls t200, The Quietwinner raises to t700, 1 fold, Now What?

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September 26, 2010 - 3:03 pm
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Question I have is how active have you and the other two players been when this started. I know it is early, but activity would make a huge difference to what I would do. I'll give you the couple of scenario's I see and how I play and you can fill in more info and go from there:

 

1. You have been really active and the other two have not.

In this case I 4bet as my activity level has invited two players to try to stop me. The button flatting if I have been active reads like a show of strength and position and him trying to take away the pot post flop while the SB 3bet seems like he is trying to re-steal since he figures both me and the BTN are light.

 

2. I have not been active, BTN has not been active and SB has been active

This one becomes a little harder and I think I lean towards a fold because of the tight button. If he wasn't there I would 4bet the active SB, but the presence of a tight player who has chosen to flat the raise of another tight player creeps me out.

 

3. None of us have been active

I fold and am just miffed that the SB woke up with a hand.

 

4. All of us have been really active

I 4bet this one as my holding is well ahead of loose players ranges and hope someone spaz's and we get it in.

 

— Hope this helps a little

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September 26, 2010 - 4:09 pm
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lespaulgman said:

Question I have is how active have you and the other two players been when this started. I know it is early, but activity would make a huge difference to what I would do. I'll give you the couple of scenario's I see and how I play and you can fill in more info and go from there:

 

1. You have been really active and the other two have not.

In this case I 4bet as my activity level has invited two players to try to stop me. The button flatting if I have been active reads like a show of strength and position and him trying to take away the pot post flop while the SB 3bet seems like he is trying to re-steal since he figures both me and the BTN are light.

 

2. I have not been active, BTN has not been active and SB has been active

This one becomes a little harder and I think I lean towards a fold because of the tight button. If he wasn't there I would 4bet the active SB, but the presence of a tight player who has chosen to flat the raise of another tight player creeps me out.

 

3. None of us have been active

I fold and am just miffed that the SB woke up with a hand.

 

4. All of us have been really active

I 4bet this one as my holding is well ahead of loose players ranges and hope someone spaz's and we get it in.

 

— Hope this helps a little


 

+1… nice view point.

 

bjizz

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September 27, 2010 - 1:58 am
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It was too early, and I didn't see any hands from them at showdown. I folded because I hated my spot and didn't think I would get much value if I did hit (that is if I'm not beat already).

 

Thanks for the info though, pretty much covered it.

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LPG is apparently pretty good at thinking about poker 🙂  vn.

 

I have history with Quietwinner however, and would never everrrrrr fold to him in any situation.

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September 27, 2010 - 11:19 am
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Folding pre this deep is so weak. At the very least, flat and see a flop in position.

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September 27, 2010 - 4:30 pm
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I see no problem with flatting and seeing a flop in position here……like LPG said there are a lot of other dynamics to consider in a situation like this.

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