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AK optimal line.
hawkeyeK9
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January 5, 2012 - 1:11 pm
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It is early in the tournament and so far villian has been active. I am curious what you guys think the optimal line is and your thought process? Thanks.

Merge Network $2,000 Guaranteed Deepstack Freezeout No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50.00/t100.00 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t4375.00 43.75 BBs
pokersteelerfan (UTG): t5947.00 59.47 BBs
chunkymonk3y (UTG+1): t5683.00 56.83 BBs
jhndoe (UTG+2): t11069.00 110.69 BBs
IBeatUrHand (MP1): t4000.00 40 BBs
shortmat31 (MP2): t5478.00 54.78 BBs
AKfishAK (CO): t10197.00 101.97 BBs
StevenHood (BTN): t4000.00 40 BBs
musicmorello513 (SB): t1101.00 11.01 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with A of diamonds K of clubs
pokersteelerfan calls t100, 4 folds, AKfishAK raises to t275.00, 2 folds, Hero calls t175, pokersteelerfan calls t175

Flop: (t875) 6 of hearts K of spades 9 of spades (3 players)
Hero checks, pokersteelerfan checks, AKfishAK bets t311.00, Hero calls t311, pokersteelerfan folds

Turn: (t1497) 9 of hearts (2 players)
Hero checks, AKfishAK bets t644.00, Hero raises to t1455.00, AKfishAK calls t811

River: (t4407) 9 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero?

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January 5, 2012 - 5:34 pm
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did you think about a small check raise on the flop?

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January 5, 2012 - 6:18 pm
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If he's been really active you can check the river since he'll bet all his air and he's not too likely to call your river bet. 

 

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January 5, 2012 - 7:14 pm
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I think you played the hand fine until the Turn. I see no reason to raise the turn — a better line would be to check call the turn and river. If he has a worse K than you, you keep him in the hand and if ur beat your exercising some pot control.

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I'm fine with the flat pre oop, especially as there was an utg limp. I also check call the flop as a c/r could look like a draw and you are bloating the pot oop early with tptk, or you are pushing out the hands you are dominating. I think I am probably check calling the turn to then lead a brick on the river and calling a raise, or check calling a flush card. As played I think this is a good spot to check the river to let him bluff as I don't see him calling with a worse hand anyway, 10 10 to QQ will check behind but I think these hands will probably fold to a decent sized bet anyway. I am then calling his river bet as I don't see anypoint in raising it.

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January 5, 2012 - 8:22 pm
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running0uts said:

I'm fine with the flat pre oop, especially as there was an utg limp. I also check call the flop as a c/r could look like a draw and you are bloating the pot oop early with tptk, or you are pushing out the hands you are dominating. I think I am probably check calling the turn to then lead a brick on the river and calling a raise, or check calling a flush card. As played I think this is a good spot to check the river to let him bluff as I don't see him calling with a worse hand anyway, 10 10 to QQ will check behind but I think these hands will probably fold to a decent sized bet anyway. I am then calling his river bet as I don't see anypoint in raising it.

isnt it good in this case if we make our hand look like a draw? i reckon villains spazz out a whole lot with KQ here given the board is so wet
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January 6, 2012 - 12:18 am
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I kind of agree Bennymacca because of our stack size (40bbs). I hadn't really paid attention to that and just read that it was early in a deepstack. If we were deeper then I prefer to pot control rather than take the higher variance route by repping a draw. But here, with 40bbs maybe it is good to get it in with tptk and gamble, in which case your c/r flop line may be best.

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January 6, 2012 - 10:11 am
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3 bet pre/get it in.i almost never call oop AK with 40bbs against active big stack who propably wants to isolate  the limper.so we 3bet for value.as played c/r flop and double up against his K,draw,PP or what else he wants to go with.your hand is hidden he can't think you have AK.ok maybe sometimes he will fold lower pp but on the other hand flop is draw heavy.nh

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January 6, 2012 - 11:07 am
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As played I would Jam the river, I do not want to give the villain a chance to check back and lose value from the hands we beat.  Since we have about <1/2 PSB I don't think he will bluff with his missed draws.
 
I don't mind the flat pre flop.  I would 3bet GII if the villain has been iso raising a lot against the limp (because he might shove a wider range since his PFR looks weak and could assume you might make a move here).
 
On this board texture I would probably c/r and if he comes over my c/r I would call and gii.  Too often I think that we are going to get out played on this board texture.  On a K96ds flop any card between 5-Q can make a straight two pairs or 3 of a kind.  Tie in the fact that we are OOP and you are basically playing with fire.  I would raise small enough that he would still think that he had fold equity about t1250 or more sounds right:
 
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TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
 
Hero (BB): t4375.00 43.75 BBs
pokersteelerfan (UTG): t5947.00 59.47 BBs
chunkymonk3y (UTG+1): t5683.00 56.83 BBs
jhndoe (UTG+2): t11069.00 110.69 BBs
IBeatUrHand (MP1): t4000.00 40 BBs
shortmat31 (MP2): t5478.00 54.78 BBs
AKfishAK (CO): t10197.00 101.97 BBs
StevenHood (BTN): t4000.00 40 BBs
musicmorello513 (SB): t1101.00 11.01 BBs
 
Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with Adiamond Kclub
pokersteelerfan calls t100, 4 folds, AKfishAK raises to t275.00, 2 folds, Hero calls t175, pokersteelerfan calls t175
 
Flop: (t875) 6heart K spade9 spade(3 players)
Hero checks, pokersteelerfan checks, AKfishAK bets t311.00, Hero raises to t1250, pokersteelerfan folds, AKfishAK calls t939
 
Turn: (t3375) 9heart (2 players)
Hero bets T2850 and is all in
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January 6, 2012 - 2:38 pm
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What do you guys make of villian only raising to 275 with an UTG limper? What is your initial ranging with that bet?

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January 6, 2012 - 7:19 pm
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Its a really small raise im putting him on AA or KK.

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January 6, 2012 - 7:22 pm
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I think it's pretty hard to narrow his range based on his sizing here, but if anything I'd say it looks like he wants action. The trouble is that we don't know how he plays, maybe this is his standard raise size and hasn't adjusted for the limper, or he thinks he can iso with this sizing. It could even be that he likes his hand enough to raise but not enough to make it any bigger than that. So I would say that it is suspicious but that without a read on what it means I wouldn't be too confident in narrowing his range.

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January 10, 2012 - 1:34 pm
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Villian had AA. I think a lot of people are transparent with their betting. I remember thinking instantly preflop it could potentially be AA and I should be cautious. I however couldn't help myself get it in after flopping so well. Whoops!

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January 11, 2012 - 11:05 am
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I never raise the turn. There is no reason in raising here or at the river because thre are no hands he calls with that are worse than ours and the hands he calls with AA KK and AK , we chop one of them.

 

 

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January 11, 2012 - 11:14 am
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Van H3Lzing said:

I never raise the turn. There is no reason in raising here or at the river because thre are no hands he calls with that are worse than ours and the hands he calls with AA KK and AK , we chop one of them.

 

 

Yeah. I had a spew moment. Just decided to be an idiot and jam river. One of those days where I didn't really care and just said **** it. HAHA. Should not be playing on those days.

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