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AK itm in ftp 56k guarentee. Should I fold pre?

Robjk16

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January 29, 2011 - 2:29 pm

Hey guys. First time on this forum. The following hand came up in the 56K guarentee on …..p://ftp. The hand I really want to discuss is below this one, but I think it might be important for you to see. Up until this point I was controlling the table and I was in about 35th place. we were on the bubble.

Full Tilt – 500/1000 NL – Holdem – 9 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: …..racker.com

LP: 9,071.00

CO: 16,307.00

Hero (BTN): 43,593.00

SB: 47,020.00

BB: 9,041.00

UTG: 13,707.00

UTG+1: 31,289.00

MP: 18,606.00

MP+1: 15,518.00

LP posts ante 125.00, CO posts ante 125.00, Hero posts ante 125.00, SB posts ante 125.00, BB posts ante 125.00, UTG posts ante 125.00, UTG+1 posts ante 125.00, MP posts ante 125.00, MP+1 posts ante 125.00, SB posts SB 500.00, BB posts BB 1,000.00

Pre Flop: (2625.00) Hero has Kh Ad

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 4,000.00, Hero raises to 43,468.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, CO calls 12,182.00 and is all-in

Flop: (34989.00, 2 players) 4c 6s 4s

Turn: (34989.00, 2 players) 3h

River: (34989.00, 2 players) 9s

CO shows Qd Qh (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)

Hero shows Kh Ad (One Pair, Fours) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)

CO wins 34,989.00

Three hands later this hand came up. Villians VPIP was 27% and he raised prefolop about 19%.

Full Tilt Poker $56,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 – 9 players

TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

LVPokerGod (UTG+1): BB = 7.2, t8696

NOCAL LEGEND (UTG+2): BB = 35.3, t42409

rjk16 (MP1): BB = 22.5, t27036

Spags68 (MP2): BB = 38.5, t46145

TOTTS13 (CO): BB = 6.0, t7166

Dr Santucci (BTN): BB = 9.9, t11832

DNTPLYPKERSTARS (SB): BB = 24.9, t29914

irishcaveman (BB): BB = 13.2, t15811

MoneybagsJ (UTG): BB = 12.6, t15143

Pre Flop: (t3150) rjk16 is MP1 with A of diamonds K of spades

MoneybagsJ calls t1200, 2 folds, rjk16 raises to t3600, Spags68 calls t3600, 4 folds, MoneybagsJ raises to t14993 all in

When I see this in low stakes mtts, it is usually As. I considered that, but if also seen people make plays like this with hands like AQo and 10's. My question is, do I fold this or shove? Is it speewy to get it in right here, especially since I lost 1/3 of my stack 3 hands ago. Thanks.

Rob

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January 29, 2011 - 8:46 pm

Ya I mean it could be a monster but I see ppl do this w/ small and medium pairs too. Looking at the math I don't think you can fold. You have the donk flat behind you adding an extra 3bb to the pot. I'm prbly reshoving here. Even if he has a monster you still have 10bb and can just go into shove mode.

I would also consider the table dynamics too. If your table is weak and it's fairly easy to pick up blinds then you can consider leaning toward the fold.

ytseshred

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January 31, 2011 - 9:15 am

Def re-shove, the dude only has 12 beebs! I'm probably shoving pre instead of 3x'ing. Take the play away from anyone thinking they can get you to fold. You shouldn't be opening and folding at 22bbs, especially not AK. The hand 3 ones prior only helps your image here (another reason I shove pre) since you may get looked up lighter.

aguilerag

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January 31, 2011 - 9:57 am

I would shove it in here too. At this stage of a tourny I want to see all 5 cards when I have AK. I may be wrong but that is what I try to do.

flgtb786

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January 31, 2011 - 1:05 pm

No, I'd be going with this hand for sure dudes got 12BB he could be shoving hands like KQ, A/Q, 5's+, and worse.

Robjk16

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January 31, 2011 - 7:34 pm

Yea. I re-shoved, the first caller folded, and villan called with As. The As held up.

I don't think I played it wrong, and I'm trying not to be results oriented, but I went from being in 30th to having 12bb in 4 hands. UL i guess, but I just wanted to double check my play. Thanks guys.

Rob

ytseshred

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February 1, 2011 - 10:18 am

Yep, cooler spot. Shove is fine, you're only dominated by 2 hands and he happened to have one of them.

flgtb786

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February 1, 2011 - 10:58 am

cooled off pretty nasty if it makes you feel better NO ONE puts him on aces there.

hawkeyeK9

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February 1, 2011 - 4:33 pm

His stack size is what makes it hard to fold. However, he is basically playing his hand face up. Limps UTG are generally really strong and when there is a raise and a call then he shoves with a smile on his face, I think it is obvious AA.

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