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October 3, 2013
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Sorry – wrong starting hand in the Subject Line – not sure how to change it. Hero has 4s 7s.
Blinds are 125/250, 25 ante in an online rebuy tourney. Table is 6 handed at this point. Rebuy period has ended. Hero is running 15/14, so pretty tight through the pre ante period. Villian is running 44/11.
MP1: t9,059 (36.2 BB)
Villian (MP2): t20,938 (83.7 BB)
CO: t1,282 (5.1 BB)
BTN: t2,450 (9.8 BB)
Hero (SB): t4,750 (19 BB)
BB: t4,845 (19.38 BB)
Pre Flop: (t525) Hero is SB with 4s 7s
fold, Villian calls 250, fold, fold, Hero raises to 750, fold, Villian calls 750
Flop: (t1,900) – 9d 8s 2h
Hero raises 850, Villian calls
Turn: (t3,600) – 6s – Hero has t3,125 behind
Hero??
August 31, 2013
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Hi,
Really don't like the iso raise with 74s and only 19BB against a calling station. I prefer high cards and/or deeper stacks to do it. As played just shove, this is the better card you can hope for (with the Ts). You don't want to check and let him shove a hand like KQ here. I don't think he is folding a lot on that turn if he is a calling station but even if he has something like A9 you still have 35% equity.
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August 25, 2012
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I hate to say it, but I strongly, strongly dislike your play preflop. There are a number of reasons:
1. A 44/11 is very rarely folding to a 3x here, meaning you're forced to play a pot out of position against a guy who doesn't like to fold, and you have 7 high. If you really wanted to raise this hand (and I never would), you would probably need to make it a bigger raise for more fold equity against someone this passive. In fact, I think a shove is probably more profitable than a 3x raise, as crazy as it sounds – and shoving in this spot would definitely be awful.
2. You only have 19bb, and you're putting in 3 of those BBs preflop. If you flop any kind of equity, it's going to be pretty hard for you to fold very often.
3. You're in the small blind and the villain limped, meaning you were getting about 6:1 or maybe more to take a flop in the SB. These are decent enough odds that you can probably complete the SB profitably with a suited, semi-connected hand like 74s, even with 19bb.
On the flop, it's a mandatory cbet since we have 7 high and our other option is to give up the pot completely, and on the turn it's a mandatory shove since we picked up basically the best card in the deck. Ship it in, and pray he folds.
October 3, 2013
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It's definitely a loose raise preflop / bad idea. I was looking just to make a move and haven't been 3 betting or opening tons of pots, so i thought it would be more respected and it would go through.
At 20 bigs, i should probably be just shoving or folding at that point.
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August 25, 2012
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It's good that you're aware of how many pots you have or haven't been opening, but if the player you're playing against isn't aware of that (which pretty much any player playing 44/11 is not going to be) then it counts for nothing. It seems like you were just overthinking the situation or feeling like you needed to play more hands or be more active. When you only have 20bb, that doesn't really enter into it – it's hard to have any kind of image with 20bb or make any 'moves'. You have no choice but to play ABC at that stack size, and ABC is ABC for a reason – it works.
August 8, 2013
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poediddly said:
It's definitely a loose raise preflop / bad idea. I was looking just to make a move and haven't been 3 betting or opening tons of pots, so i thought it would be more respected and it would go through.
At 20 bigs, i should probably be just shoving or folding at that point.
You made your move, I think 74s isn't a hand to make sick moves with but you tried and failed. No reason to barrel a 982r board oop against an aggressive player. Just check/fold. On the turn if the flop goes chk/chk you can fire your barrel, I think shoving turn is just bad. You have to consider his stack size and your shove just looks weak/desperate.
Given your lack of fold equity, and the fact you finally pick up some equity on the turn I think oop chk/call is best, followed by a chk/shove. Even chk/shoving the turn imo is better than open shoving. But again, I think c/betting oop on that flop against an aggressive player oop is just not going to be fun.
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September 28, 2012
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Expanding on what theginger is saying regarding using your image.
Even if the opponent was aware of your tighter image, this still wouldnt be a good iso spot. 47s just doesnt play well at all.
I constnatly see people fall into this trap of trying to exploit spots when they have been ard dead or playing tight, but choose the wrong hands. When you want to open your range you dont want to open to just a random or ATC hand, you want to expand your range down the strength chart against his range. That is if your standard raising range here is something like 66+, AT+, then you can expand your range to something like JTs+,QJo+, A4s+, A7o+, 44+. This increases your range by a lot of hands(dont have stove on this laptop dto see how much), but allows you to still be able to play post.
There are very very few ATC spots (which this basically has to be to be profitable),so avoid trying to find them as they are usally more costly to get wrong then they gain you to get right, with these very marginal hands.
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October 3, 2013
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yeah, totally understand that. I guess looking past my awful 3 bet of trying to make a move..
On the flop with that board, does it make sense to C bet because i showed strength preflop and rep an overpair? I thought i could just take it down right there, but after he calls and the turn gives me an open ender and flush draw, i should be shoving there yes? I have around 3,100 behind. I made my bed so have to lie in it i would assume.
In situations where I am balancing my 3 bet ranges with bluffs with ATo, 44+, etc., should i be c betting on most boards? I'm feeling like if i show strength preflop where i'm repping QQ, KK, AA…i should continue the story. Been running into that situation a bunch. I'm trying to be more aggressive (been watching big dog videos) as to keep putting the pressure on.
I know that is a general question, but wanted to hear your thoughts.
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