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Ajs oop 20BBs
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July 18, 2012 - 9:09 am
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Thoughts on this one pls?

Only 6 handed at this stage and villian is 18/14 over 72 hands and I haven't seen him show anything down yet.  I'm 17/13 so we have very similar stats.   My plan was to c/f if I missed the flop and never fold if I hit it (if he has ak/aq then so be it.)  I'm thinking I maybe should get it in pre but if I fold the flop I still have enough chips to keep going.  I can't imagine folding the flop 6 handed when the A hits with < 20bbs left.  Soz about the formatting of the HH as Lock doesn't seem to convert.

 

Revolution Gaming Network – $10+$1|150/300 NL (9 max) – Holdem – 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: …..racker.com

SB: 2,402.00
Hero (BB): 6,270.00
UTG: 12,981.00
MP: 8,380.00
CO: 7,911.00
BTN: 3,930.00

SB posts ante 30.00, Hero posts ante 30.00, UTG posts ante 30.00, MP posts ante 30.00, CO posts ante 30.00, BTN posts ante 30.00, SB posts SB 150.00, Hero posts BB 300.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 630.00) Hero has Js As

fold, MP raises to 750.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 450.00

Flop: (1830.00, 2 players) Ah 4d Ts
Hero checks, MP bets 800.00, Hero raises to 1,600.00, MP calls 800.00

Turn: (5030.00, 2 players) 2h
Hero bets 2,255.00, MP raises to 4,510.00, Hero calls 1,635.00 and is all-in

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July 18, 2012 - 1:28 pm
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Just shove pre.  If you get a fold you'll increase your stack by 15% and AJ does well enough against his opening range.

Flatting OOP with a 20bb stack is def -EV.

As played I guess c/shove this flop.

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July 18, 2012 - 3:52 pm
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Just shove pre.  If you get a fold you’ll increase your stack by 15% and AJ does well enough against his opening range.

Flatting OOP with a 20bb stack is def -EV.

As played I guess c/shove this flop.

100% this

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bennymacca said:

Just shove pre.  If you get a fold you'll increase your stack by 15% and AJ does well enough against his opening range.

Flatting OOP with a 20bb stack is def -EV.

As played I guess c/shove this flop.

100% this

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July 19, 2012 - 12:44 pm
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rip it in pre is pretty standard, i would never play this hand in this spot with 20 bb flop dependant

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July 19, 2012 - 11:22 pm
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Cheer guys,

Bad timing but I'm catching up on old podcasts, and the day after posting this I listened to the one where Bigdog talks about 20bb stacks effective and just shoving pre 🙂

O well, seems pretty obvious but gotta learn somehow.

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Nokaman said:

Just shove pre.  If you get a fold you'll increase your stack by 15% and AJ does well enough against his opening range.

Flatting OOP with a 20bb stack is def -EV.

As played I guess c/shove this flop.

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I would defo get it in pre. If i had a monster in his position and the short stacks left to act then id be looking to min raise hoping 1 of the short stacks would shove over my raise. So i dont think his 3x raise looks as strong as you think and your probably ahead if not flipping.

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July 21, 2012 - 4:46 am
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Yep, it's always a shove from now on.

He had a4o ftw

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July 23, 2012 - 2:38 am
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I believe we are ahead of his range so I would shove pre…smouth calling raises with such small effective stacks not good.

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