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AJo open versus 13BB flat and 14BB reraise, but not all-in... just fold?
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November 21, 2010 - 4:51 pm
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I marked this hand for review in PokerTracker, but never actually reviewed it, so no reads although PokerTracker is saying SB is 20/9 over 93 and BB is 18/6 over 33 (3bet 6% 1/16). I'm always confused with AJo facing a 12-20BB shove as I'm pretty sure it's not doing particularly well against most opponent's range.

 

Full Tilt Poker Super Stack $10K Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SB: BB = 13.1, t15702
BB: BB = 14.4, t17307
UTG: BB = 11.0, t13169
UTG+1: BB = 14.9, t17914
UTG+2: BB = 21.1, t25292
Hero (MP1): BB = 45.7, t54826
MP2: BB = 17.9, t21473
CO: BB = 84.8, t101743
BTN: BB = 33.8, t40605

Pre Flop: (t3150) Hero is MP1 with A of spades J of diamonds
3 folds, Hero raises to t2712, 3 folds, SB calls t2112, BB raises to t9600, Hero ??? 

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November 22, 2010 - 11:32 am
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I fold here. If he shoves I probably re-shove to isolate.

Obv. you're not folding him out and I think his 3 bet is to induce action so I give him credit for a pretty strong hand here. His stats don't indicate he's a creative player so doubt it's a level on his part to make his hand look stronger than it really is.

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November 22, 2010 - 11:35 am
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Yeah, people don't do this with AT or worse and your really need some hands you dominate in his range to make it profitable.

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If he shoves instead of just raising half his stack do you still call? I just can't see him doing this with AT or worse so it has to be a fold, right? There would be 23931 in the middle if he shoves and you'd need to call 14445, which means you need 1.6567:1 or 37.64%. Versus 22+,AJ+ we're 37.983% so it's just a call, but a very marginal one at that. I don't think he's ever shoving anything that we dominate here so it has to be a fold… I always have trouble opening AJ versus 12-20BB stacks. AQ I raise with the intention of calling, but I just find AJ such a difficult hand to play versus these stacks.

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November 22, 2010 - 1:49 pm
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With your stack size I'd reshove ISO – I think you're flipping a lot against a jam and may also be ahead some times against a hand like A9s or ATs etc… I think those show up occasionally. KQ, too.

Even if you lose you still have 31 bb's and I really do not think the SB has much going on here.

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If I don't think villan is doing this with worst I fold.  I understand the idea behind “with so many chips in pot…”, but and a big butttt is this range is 77+ so you are only flipping vs. 2 hands and crushed vs. TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ, AJ, and chopping vs. AT.  Even if you expand it down to 22+ I still think I'm folding.

If I close the action it's a much easier decision, but with the SB still in the hand and flatting a pretty high % of his stk I get out now.

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November 22, 2010 - 4:23 pm
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this is a fold, especially against someone with such passive tendencies. i'd probably fold to a shove as well.

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November 22, 2010 - 5:46 pm
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Fold…and fold to a shove…Caller behind u makes it easier

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