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September 14, 2014
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#Game No : 637898638
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 637898638 *****
$500/$1,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #63248877 $1.80 + $0.20 – Table #41 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: raise_bleat1 ( $10,810 )
Seat 2: FreakyDeak ( $15,279 )
Seat 3: london_ace ( $36,289 )
Seat 5: andryuxa4f ( $100,801 )
Seat 6: skw1936 ( $23,448 )
Seat 7: markoduclaux ( $13,165 )
Seat 9: MilosNedic ( $44,075 )
Seat 10: Kyltmass ( $62,005 )
Kyltmass posts ante [$125]
markoduclaux posts ante [$125]
raise_bleat1 posts ante [$125]
MilosNedic posts ante [$125]
andryuxa4f posts ante [$125]
skw1936 posts ante [$125]
FreakyDeak posts ante [$125]
london_ace posts ante [$125]
FreakyDeak posts small blind [$500]
london_ace posts big blind [$1,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ A
, J
]
andryuxa4f raises [$3,375]
skw1936 folds
markoduclaux folds
MilosNedic folds
Kyltmass folds
raise_bleat1 folds
FreakyDeak folds
london_ace calls [$2,375]
** Dealing flop ** [ A
, 9, 4
] (total pot 8.2k)
london_ace checks
andryuxa4f bets [$4,125]
london_ace calls [$4,125]
** Dealing turn ** [ 8 ] (total pot 16.5k)
london_ace checks
andryuxa4f bets [$93,176]
london_ace folds
Hey
New to the table , but villian does seem quite active , not seen any hands showed down..
,when V bluffs he is risking $28,000 to win 16,500 he needs me to fold 28000/(28000 + 16,500) 62% of the time to break even on his bluff, which means i shoud call 38% of the time, if i fold more then that i'd lose too much to his bluffs.
so ya , would u call in this spot? I just think it's rather unlikely a hand like AQ/AK would just jam turn like this or a strong made hands like 99/88/44 or A9s.
thoughts?
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December 6, 2012
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“so ya , would u call in this spot? I just think it’s rather unlikely a hand like AQ/AK would just jam turn like this or a strong made hands like 99/88/44 or A9s.”
The second sentence, if true, makes this a clear call. Even without that read, though, I’d still call.
I hate to do this, because you did a nice job applying the indifference equation here, but the complication is that unlike with a river shove, V may win the pot even if he is bluffing and you call, so this is a much more difficult one to calculate mathematically. You can only make him indifferent to shoving one type of draw, and I don’t know how to determine which you should target. Your calling frequency to make him indifferent to shoving KdQd is different than for JsTs and different again for JdTd etc.
The good news is that we probably don’t need to solve this with precision. You have a very significant blocker to Villain’s value range, which is probably by itself enough to make this a call. It’s also nice that you don’t have a diamond in your hand, which means you don’t block flush draw combos. You do block Jc Tc, but that’s only a single combo. So this strikes me as a quite good bluff-catcher, and I would call.
November 4, 2013
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I'm agreeing with the call here, for pretty much every reason Andrew said.
The one concern I have is you eliminating AK/AQ/A9 because you feel a hand that strong won't do this – it absolutely will, especailly at this buy in. Low stakes players are usually terrified of flush draws, and therefore they will play hands way too strong to push out the draws. It isn't likely he shoves sets here, as people play them different that they do AK/AQ/A9 here. It has to do with the relative strength and the mentality of how they react when flopping a set. Essentially, you feel way less vulnerable and you auto assume that your oppenent is way more likely to have Ax than they are the draw, so you go for value vs protection. I'm by no means saying that's correct/incorrect, but I see players do this over and over and over.
The good news from that, is he will likely do that with every Ax in his range. Which, given that he has 100bb, is probably all of them. So we are ahead of the entire range he shoving here(even if he is shoving his sets), and we can call happily.
September 14, 2014
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Foucault said:
“so ya , would u call in this spot? I just think it's rather unlikely a hand like AQ/AK would just jam turn like this or a strong made hands like 99/88/44 or A9s.”
The second sentence, if true, makes this a clear call. Even without that read, though, I'd still call.
I hate to do this, because you did a nice job applying the indifference equation here, but the complication is that unlike with a river shove, V may win the pot even if he is bluffing and you call, so this is a much more difficult one to calculate mathematically. You can only make him indifferent to shoving one type of draw, and I don't know how to determine which you should target. Your calling frequency to make him indifferent to shoving KdQd is different than for JsTs and different again for JdTd etc.
The good news is that we probably don't need to solve this with precision. You have a very significant blocker to Villain's value range, which is probably by itself enough to make this a call. It's also nice that you don't have a diamond in your hand, which means you don't block flush draw combos. You do block Jc Tc, but that's only a single combo. So this strikes me as a quite good bluff-catcher, and I would call.
Much apperciated andrew.
September 14, 2014
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OneTime1Time said:
I'm agreeing with the call here, for pretty much every reason Andrew said.
The one concern I have is you eliminating AK/AQ/A9 because you feel a hand that strong won't do this – it absolutely will, especailly at this buy in. Low stakes players are usually terrified of flush draws, and therefore they will play hands way too strong to push out the draws. It isn't likely he shoves sets here, as people play them different that they do AK/AQ/A9 here. It has to do with the relative strength and the mentality of how they react when flopping a set. Essentially, you feel way less vulnerable and you auto assume that your oppenent is way more likely to have Ax than they are the draw, so you go for value vs protection. I'm by no means saying that's correct/incorrect, but I see players do this over and over and over.
The good news from that, is he will likely do that with every Ax in his range. Which, given that he has 100bb, is probably all of them. So we are ahead of the entire range he shoving here(even if he is shoving his sets), and we can call happily.
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September 28, 2012
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In a @$ tourney I probably call here becuase they are so crazy, but in low stakes(10-25$), I think the average donk that takes this line is heavily weighted towards AQ/AK and I just fold with our healthy stack and wait for a better spot.
The over 3x pre.
The Soldi flop bet.
Then the spastic shove on somewhat safe turn
Are all tell tale signs that somone has value but is afraid of letting you get there so is charging you max.
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