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AA oop squeezed pot deep.
almofadinhas
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June 20, 2016 - 7:25 pm
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Hello!

I register for mistake into sat for €75 mtt, got the ticket and couldn´t unregister, my max BI is on €20 when my BR allows me. 🙂 So this is out of my league yet, not sure if I played badly here.

this guy is a wining player over 500 games this year, playing TAG, didn´t saw he doing anything out of the line.

IPoker, 40/80 blinds No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 20,153 (251.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 14,620 (182.8 bb)
UTG+1: 9,760 (122 bb)
UTG+2: 9,130 (114.1 bb)
MP1: 8,704 (108.8 bb)
MP2: 8,777 (109.7 bb)
MP3: 12,017 (150.2 bb)
CO: 10,476 (131 bb)
BTN: 7,328 (91.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Aspade Adiamond
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 160, 2 folds, MP3 calls 160, 3 folds, Hero raises to 640, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls 480

Flop: (1,480) 3spade 7spade 6diamond (2 players)
Hero bets 900, MP3 raises to 2,599, Hero folds

Results: 3,280 pot
Final Board: 3spade 7spade 6diamond
Hero mucked Aspade Adiamond and lost (-1,540 net)
MP3 mucked and won 3,280 (1,740 net)

Because of the pre flop action I give V a range of TT-22, A9s-A2s, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, not sure if this range is correct here, thougths?

OTF I cbet, when V reraises me I give him something like: TT-66, 33, JsTs, Ts9s, 9s8s, 8s7s, 7s6s, 6s5s, not sure if V will play 54s like that, or 88-TT, discounted Axs because I have the backdoor flush, thoughts on this range?

If my range OTF is correct I should GII, my equity calculator says i have 62.29% to win…

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June 21, 2016 - 6:04 am
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Villain has a lot of draws on this flop, you do block some of the spade draws by holding the Aspade 

I think you could add KQs & QJs to V flop raising range 

I call here and re-evaluate on the turn

The only cards to be mindful of on the turn would be 10x, 9x, 8x 

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I use PokerStove for hand range percentage.

 

With this hand Pre-flop it was bet the same way I would have bet it with a raise and a call before me.

 

With AA pre

against a single opponent with a 59.6% range (That’s what I put him/her on) or (22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o)

we have an equity of 84.774% 

I believe the pre-flop action was good!

Pot: $1960

I gave the V an extra wide range as it is early in tournament and he/she is experienced as these types of players often play a little loose in beginning play to pick up chips from more inexperienced players they see a weakness in. 

You looking up this player before/during game will influence your play against him/her. If it was looked up afterwards this isn’t a factor.

Flop:

3spade7spade6diamond

Once the flop comes out our equity only changes by -0.597 or an equity of 84.177%

with this flop for me not a lot has changed. We have a runner runner nut flush draw and two over cards to the board.

Hero bets $900 Pot $2860

V raises by $1699 + $900 = Pot of $4559

Hero must put in $1699 to play

that’s 2.7:1 pot odds 

V has put in $3239 total

making an effective stack of $877

His large flop raise leads me to believe he has a large pocket pair, however, I still put him on a 28.4% range of hands or 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo, also a possibility still exist he has a straight or flush draw with smaller suited connectors. This also increases his/her hand range from 28.4% to over 60%

It canbe play in one of three ways the first being my personal preference:

1. A 4 bet non shove, like $7585 will show your willing to dedicate your stack with out actually doing it, and will get the the same results as the above and risk less. If he goes all in, call, and you’ll still have 32.6 BB left if he wins. That’s not the desired result but it’s poker, it happens.

2. Not what I would do, but, Shove making him/her go through a meaningful decision. I believe you’ll get a fold, but if not, I think you’ll have his pocket pair or draws dominated. 

3. Not what I would do, but, a call is a possible choice.

 

What do ya all think?

Cheers,

JP

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June 21, 2016 - 11:03 pm
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RiskyBull said

I think you could add KQs & QJs to V flop raising range 

I agree, I added it and give hero 62.67% to win, doesn´t change much.

RiskyBull said

I call here and re-evaluate on the turn

The only cards to be mindful of on the turn would be 10x, 9x, 8x 

Not sure about calling to reevaluate, I think pot will be too big to get away from it if a blank hits, ~6678 with ~8870 from V´s stack, basically a bet pot.

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June 21, 2016 - 11:12 pm
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JupiterRocks said

against a single opponent with a 59.6% range (That’s what I put him/her on) or (22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o)

Sorry, I still think your ranges are too wide smile

 

JupiterRocks said

You looking up this player before/during game will influence your play against him/her. If it was looked up afterwards this isn’t a factor.

I agree with this. I don´t remember if i look before or after tow.

 

JupiterRocks said

It canbe play in one of three ways the first being my personal preference:

1. A 4 bet non shove, like $7585 will show your willing to dedicate your stack with out actually doing it, and will get the the same results as the above and risk less. If he goes all in, call, and you’ll still have 32.6 BB left if he wins. That’s not the desired result but it’s poker, it happens.

2. Not what I would do, but, Shove making him/her go through a meaningful decision. I believe you’ll get a fold, but if not, I think you’ll have his pocket pair or draws dominated. 

3. Not what I would do, but, a call is a possible choice.

 

What do ya all think?

Cheers,

JP

1 and 2 I am not a big fan of, since V will fold all his bluffs this way, and leave hero to handle his monster hands/monster draws.

3 I like better actually, but not to reevaluete, if I call flop i am probably not folding this hand for a shove on later street.

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June 22, 2016 - 7:48 am
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JupiterRocks said

It canbe play in one of three ways the first being my personal preference:

1. A 4 bet non shove, like $7585 will show your willing to dedicate your stack with out actually doing it, and will get the the same results as the above and risk less. If he goes all in, call, and you’ll still have 32.6 BB left if he wins. That’s not the desired result but it’s poker, it happens.

2. Not what I would do, but, Shove making him/her go through a meaningful decision. I believe you’ll get a fold, but if not, I think you’ll have his pocket pair or draws dominated. 

3. Not what I would do, but, a call is a possible choice.

What do ya all think?

Cheers,

JP

almo replied:

1 and 2 I am not a big fan of, since V will fold all his bluffs this way, and leave hero to handle his monster hands/monster draws.

3 I like better actually, but not to reevaluete, if I call flop i am probably not folding this hand for a shove on later street.

If we’re not folding to a shove on later street (where he could have drawn cards to be us), I believe 1 is a better option, this early in the game we’ll collect over 3K of his chips if he folds a semi-bluff rather than playing it and drawing out on us on later streets.

 

JupiterRocks said

against a single opponent with a 59.6% range (That’s what I put him/her on) or (22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K3o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o)

Almo replied:

Sorry, I still think your ranges are too wide smile

I use to narrow my ranges down quite a bit, but after watching the vids on TPEU and seeing what our fearless leaders (Pros) play, when and where (their all different of coarse) I’ve learned to broaden my ranges. For instance, BigDog Pre 3 bet 4/5 off surprised(in similar position) then called a re-raise pre, then bet on flop and took down the pot, it was mid-tourney though not beginning. V could easily be betting the way he/she is with top pair (for instance 8/7o) just as well as a semi-bluff with two Broadway cards.

 

JP

 
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