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July 7, 2012
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This was towards the end of level one. Villain had already proved to be a LAG, small sample on stats (40 hands) but figures are 38/25 agg factor 5.5, the hands I had seen him play backed this up.
At this point villain has no info on me as I only played one hand, early pos open, I flatted with 77, villain in question squeezed, opener 4bet, I folded. So hand in question is the first hand I have opened.
1) Do you play any street differently and why?
2) What do you do on river?
Poker Stars $1000+$50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t15/t30 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
#1StefanLiv (UTG): t5624 187.47 BBs
AverageGreg (UTG+1): t2927 97.57 BBs
MORTIIIIIIII (UTG+2): t2534 84.47 BBs
subiime (MP1): t6801 226.70 BBs
Emilohlsson (MP2): t5938 197.93 BBs
Pollopopeye (CO): t6114 203.80 BBs
Hero (BTN): t4865 162.17 BBs
Bandano (SB): t4724 157.47 BBs
iampot (BB): t4973 165.77 BBs
Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with A
A
6 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, iampot calls t60
Flop: (t195) 5 J K (2 players)
iampot checks, Hero bets t90, iampot raises to t330, Hero calls t240
Turn: (t855) 3
(2 players)
iampot bets t750, Hero calls t750
River: (t2355) 4 (2 players)
iampot bets t2070, Hero ?????
July 3, 2010
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I size c-bet larger. Calling when check-raised seems fine.
His turn sizing is value weighted and not draw weighted. At this point I'm probably using my time bank to OPR him and such. Looks like he's a midstakes player and nothing special at that. I honestly might sigh/fold since this is a 1k and he satt'd into it so won't assume he can get out of line here OOP until I see him show down something goofy.
QTdd might go this hard at us but there aren't really many other draws where I see such heavy betting occurring.
As played, I fold river because I think we're repping some sort of Kx here and we're still facing tons of pressure. If he ran some sort of super spew bluff good for him, I guess?
June 11, 2012
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i would also bet about 125 here on the flop. its a very wet board which hits his flatting range a lot.
with the Ad i assume we can call here with backdoor nut FD and SD.
Turn i am also in the fold camp as it seems a random MS-MTT player should not barrel of on this turn too much with his draws but only bet the value hands. the question is if he overvalues hands lik KQ or QJ and so on.
if we call the turn because we think he bets his draws there a lot then we have to call the river. His sizing looks relative to the pot the same.
So if he bets the turn with the draws he should also bet all missed draws on the river without showdown. dont think that he is pulling off that move.
so personally if i see the river i fold and let him have this one
November 30, 2012
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He is taking you to max value town and having a fiest, i don’t see many bluffs in his range here, but I do believe overvalued AK might be in his value range here, but considering that i still think you see KJ, K5s and 55 so more often than AK (considering your hand) that I’m leaning towards a fold, it’s kinda close as i feel that the turn bet feels like a semiweak hand thats a bit too worried protecting against draws.
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May 30, 2012
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just fold turn imo. coolers advice is spot on, only thing that confuses me is that we are essentially underrepping our hand by betting so small on flop. having the Ad here is actually bad for us so i think its an easy turn fold
July 7, 2012
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good discussion guys thanks.
I bet small because he was quite spewy and wanted to give him room. Felt his first 2 bets could be protecting top pair or monster draw. by rvr I was either WA or WB.
May 30, 2012
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arent we always WA/WB on the river?
July 7, 2012
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duggs said:
arent we always WA/WB on the river?
Yeah, sorry. Didnt complete the post. At the time I felt I was only loosing to 2 specifc hands 55 or KJ. AK and JJ he would 3bet pre (v agg player). Leaving KQ, QTdd, Q9dd, KT (unlikely playing this hard) or some Jx hand trying to get me off a weak K or missed diamonds. The size of his rvr bet to me look like he was trying to get a fold rather the value from say AJ if he had a K.
just to widen the discussion a little to 'reads'. Every action he took was fairly quick, fast played, including the bomb on the rvr. From this should I conclude that a) he is v confident in what he is doing in this hand b) has paid little thought to what my cards are
November 30, 2012
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Very quick river bets from players that arent always quick is for some people always a bluff. I make sure to pay attention to confirm that tell early on, it's a big one. Quick calls on flop are often draws or TP/WK type hands. That's at least my experience.
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