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gingernuts
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October 12, 2016 - 3:04 pm
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Hi all

My first post so sorry if the set up is wrong. I’m a slightly profitable micros player, trying to improve watching videos and taking the advice to revise my hand history’s. This is probably a simple spot but I think I’m confusing myself so I have a few questions.  I tend to play on autopilot and could not remember my thought process at the time but the villain stood out as more active then the rest. So after reviewing I’m thinking:

Raise/calling was the worst option. Raise/fold seems to tight against an active player 3 betting a buttons raise. Shoving was better but overkill. Raise/shove seems much better once I give him a 3bet range (his 3bet% 14.5 over 170 hands)

On the turn I think I’m in a similar spot, calling seems stupid. So all in or fold? I’m guessing he would cbet here with almost all of the same range maybe slowplaying his monsters as I’m short stacked, so I feel I’m giving away to much equity folding. 

ultimately I should be paying attention, but would be grateful if anyone wants to point out the obvious.

look forward to your comments. 

*I tried to upload this hand through the HH button but it did not work, the insert button did nothing.

PokerStars Hand #159763397658: Tournament #1693511976, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level VIII (150/300) – 2016/10/11 0:54:41 WET [2016/10/10 19:54:41 ET]
Table ‘1693511976 4’ 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Ricardo Fogo (10164 in chips)
Seat 2: YNMT (3326 in chips)
Seat 3: cleitonleaal (3435 in chips)
Seat 5: Tiger$tar (5909 in chips)
Seat 7: rafaneld (1755 in chips)
Seat 8: gamblergow (6052 in chips)
Seat 9: bolinhapzo (3154 in chips)
Ricardo Fogo: posts the ante 25
YNMT: posts the ante 25
cleitonleaal: posts the ante 25
Tiger$tar: posts the ante 25
rafaneld: posts the ante 25
gamblergow: posts the ante 25
bolinhapzo: posts the ante 25
bolinhapzo: posts small blind 150
Ricardo Fogo: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gamblergow [8c Ac]
YNMT: folds
cleitonleaal: folds
Tiger$tar: folds
rafaneld: folds
gamblergow: raises 300 to 600
bolinhapzo: folds
Ricardo Fogo: raises 1200 to 1800
gamblergow: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [Td 7c 3h]
Ricardo Fogo: bets 1648
gamblergow: ??

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October 13, 2016 - 12:16 am
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I usually open shove this on the BTN, but if you think BB can 3bet light, I probably raise and 4bet shove pre flop, probably better to call and call his bluffs on some types of flops tow, not entirely sure about it.

OTF I would jam, you have a strong draw, with a flush draw, back door str8 and high card, but again, if you think V will bluff a lot of worst hands in this situation, you better call and not give up.

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Thanks for the input, got me thinking again about open shoving, I normally only consider it around 15bb or less. On auto play I doubt I was even thinking about him 3betting light and having a plan for the hand when he didn’t fold to my raise. I could even of been worried to lose the rest of my stack near a final table and forgot what was more important, to take good equity spots and go with it.   

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Having a shoving range here seems suboptimal, I think off a 20BB, 10M stack we should be constructing raise/fold, raise/call and raise/4bet jam ranges in this spot. Vs villain as described I would imagine 4bet jamming is the best option, he will likely have a wide 3bet range and have to over fold to our 4bets. Whilst our hand doesn’t do well against his calling range we have the advantage of blocking some of his calling range with our Ace.

As played, if villan is as wide as you think then I would jam on the flop, we have the driest board possible and it likely completely whiffs the majority of his 3bet range giving us a shred of fold equity. Calling and allowing him to realise more equity doesn’t seem good and I think our hand is too strong to fold given the spr. If the reads aren’t concrete (you have not included a cbet stat, or villains showdown hands after 3betting) then I would fold the flop.

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I think my stack is too deep to shove pre. When I get 3-bet out of the big blind I call because I’m in position. Stack to pot ratio is just over 1 on the flop, so I’m planning on shoving any flop that hits me regardless of a donk lead.

As played, I fold on the flop. Backdoor flush and straight draws with 1 overcard is not enough against a range that is weighted toward better aces and premium pocket pairs.

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