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July 1, 2010 - 2:36 pm
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villains stats are 15/8, 0 3bet. 6.0 agg factor 79 hands
my stats are 24/22/56 steal

No previous HU BvB hands.

What’s best on turn when we hit the A?

Full Tilt Poker Game #22008637643: $10,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (169749027), Table 19 – 250/500 Ante 50 – No Limit Hold’em – 14:11:29 ET – 2010/07/01
Seat 1: QuadsOBVS (14,595)
Seat 2: gegeous (4,141)
Seat 3: d3pp (8,960)
Seat 4: chuck77 (38,684)
Seat 5: GDG988 (10,196)
Seat 6: PrincessJen9 (38,522)
Seat 7: JR Hamilsbach (8,820)
Seat 8: daisdA (10,335)
Seat 9: guitey (20,105)
QuadsOBVS antes 50
gegeous antes 50
d3pp antes 50
chuck77 antes 50
GDG988 antes 50
PrincessJen9 antes 50
JR Hamilsbach antes 50
daisdA antes 50
guitey antes 50
guitey posts the small blind of 250
QuadsOBVS posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to guitey [Ah 8d]
gegeous folds
d3pp folds
chuck77 folds
GDG988 folds
PrincessJen9 folds
JR Hamilsbach folds
daisdA folds
guitey raises to 1,300
QuadsOBVS has 15 seconds left to act
QuadsOBVS calls 800
*** FLOP *** [6c Jh Ks]
guitey has 15 seconds left to act
guitey bets 1,620
QuadsOBVS calls 1,620
*** TURN *** [6c Jh Ks] [Ad]
guitey ??

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July 1, 2010 - 3:08 pm
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hmmm…how many streets do we think we can get out of this guy now that we’ve hit our hand.

 

My guess is that the A is a scare card and with no strong draws we are more likely to get him to either bluff the river or call a river bet than we are to have him call a 2nd barrell with what is likely a weak pair.  I’m not too worried about being behind here or being out drawn on river.

 

So I check behind and get value on the river.

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July 1, 2010 - 4:08 pm
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RonFezBuddy said:

hmmm…how many streets do we think we can get out of this guy now that we’ve hit our hand.

 

My guess is that the A is a scare card and with no strong draws we are more likely to get him to either bluff the river or call a river bet than we are to have him call a 2nd barrell with what is likely a weak pair.  I’m not too worried about being behind here or being out drawn on river.

 

So I check behind and get value on the river.


I sorta agree, a guy with these stats isnt flatting too wide so he has some sort of hand, I’d guess his range is more weighted towards pocket pairs 22-77ish and some broadways and semi-weak aces. I think against that range bet check bet is the way to go. For me, knowing how quickly he called pre and on flop would factor into the decision somewhat as well.

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July 1, 2010 - 4:39 pm
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Yeah I think we agreed there.  I made a mistake when i put in get him to bluff since we will be first to act.  So check turn lead river.

 

If you check turn and he bets then i call turn and check/call river.

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He didn’t take much time to think about any of his decisions in this hand, like it didn’t give him the 15 second warning at any point.

I checked turn thinking the A wont help him, he will raise his bigger A’s pre and fold the smaller ones on flop, I think he raises QT on the flop more often than not altho it can’t be totally ruled out, so I think he has mid pairs, Jx,Kx hands, A6 maybe possible.

I checked turn and he bet half pot, if I call it leaves him with a bit less than a pot sized bet, so if he bets river when I check it will most likely be a jam. Do you play it this way? What hands so you think he will jam river with and do you call or fold depending on the card? Sucks being OOP as we can be bluffed off the best hand on alot of rivers here.

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I think that the pre flop and post flop action is perfect. Once we hit the turn the dynamics of the hand change because we defenetly have some showdown value now. I like checking the turn because although we have some showdown value there are defenetly hands that beat us. I would try to control the pot size here on the turn. If its check check you can go for value on river or check again hoping to enduce a bluff.

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