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April 16, 2013
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$8.80 500cap tournament. Blind 200/400 with 50 ante. I min raise open small blind (8314) 21bbb effective with A6o. BB is the chip leader on 34524 (85bb) and 3bets to 4.3bb. Whats my play?
I 4bet shoved. The reasons were that I had opened 5/6 of previous small blinds into him. He tanked for a while before 3betting and I thought, with him multi-tabling, he could be easily checking his HUD and seeing this number. Or he could just be 3betting light due to having tons of chips and he can leverage my stack.
I've taken last 2 months off tournament poker to focus on cash games but I want to get ranges down before micromillions starts on Thursday. ANY help much appreciated 😀
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December 6, 2012
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Here’s something to consider: when the action is first on you, you could turn your cards face-up and move all-in and there would be nothing your opponent could do to make this unprofitable for you. He just won’t be dealt a hand better than A6 often enough.
That doesn’t mean that’s the best play to make, but it should make you reluctant to take a line that involves folding A6o pre-flop with this stack size unless you have a very good read to justify it. If you know your opponent is a nit who will never 3-bet without a strong hand, then you can exploit him by raise-folding, but if it turns out your read is wrong and he is 3-betting light, then you’re the one getting exploited.
Cliff’s notes: I shove over this raise if I don’t just open shove preflop.
April 16, 2013
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That makes a lot of sense.
The only problem I have with open shoving 20bb is that it means we can't steal the blinds as often. If we shove A6o then when we go back to min raising with a weaker hand, our range is weaker and we get 3-bet light more often.
I think if i had around 15bb or less then I prefer open shoving.
April 16, 2013
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It's also worth noting that if big blind had folded to my shove, my stack would increase by 25% which is obviously huge. *Must not be results oriented* haha
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December 6, 2012
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Yeah you aren't going to solve a problem like this by thinking about how great it would be if BB folded or how bad it would be if you are called and dominated. When he calls you're in bad shape, and of course he could play a lot of better hands this way, the question is whether he'll fold often enough to make up for that. It's a math problem. I'm not saying you have to open shove A6o, but I'm saying that if A6o is a profitable hand to open-shove then raise-folding it is going to be exploitable and not something you should do without a read or at least a hunch to justify it.
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