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Can i fold A-Ks here? i really didnt know what to do in this hand. I have no problem calling the 3-bet shove, probs 77+, maybe A-Q,A-J but unlikely as im holding an ace and even if he's holding Q-Q im only a 46%/53% dog pre flop. The 4-bet shove seems so strong though, but again im holding an ace and king so it seems unlikely that he's holding A-A n K-K here but what range can i put this guy on? He's shoving over the top of a raise and a shove so must be strong. what would you do here guys?
Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
docakis2010 (BTN): BB = 21.2, t4237
pompey83 (SB): BB = 52.1, t10425
AA HOLTON AA (BB): BB = 26.9, t5373
Javi.Concha (UTG): BB = 15.1, t3023
daciva (UTG+1): BB = 84.0, t16803
Hero (UTG+2): BB = 83.6, t16720
Galwaygiant (MP1): BB = 23.8, t4760
elmagicgato (MP2): BB = 19.8, t3964
Equlibrium7 (CO): BB = 19.1, t3820
Pre Flop: (t525) Hero is UTG+2 with A
K
2 folds, Hero raises to t470, 2 folds, Equlibrium7 raises to t3795 all in, docakis2010 raises to t4212 all in, 2 folds, Hero?
Any reads on villains? This is an iffy spot i i don't know whats correct, we have a 80bb stack i might just go ahead and gamble here if i lose and go down to 60bbs im not worried so i probably call here might change my thoughts if you had reads on these guys suggesting they were super nitty.
yeah b/c we have such a huge stack i'd get it in here
despite the fact that we can only lose as much as 1/4 of our stack we should still think about villains ranges
i'd guess c/o standard 3bet range is TT+AJs+ and widen this for a looser villain or someone who believes we are capable of raising light from EP
i dont think we are playing very well against BTN's 4bet shove range though (which i'd guess as QQ+and AK) – well personally i'm folding JJ on the BTN here unless i have a good read/reason not to
HOWEVER, although we play badly against BTN, theres too much value in the total pot to turn down so i'd call
October 6, 2010
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you are risking 20 odd bb to win 60 odd, and you are left with 60bb if you lose, pretty sure i wouldn't ever fold here, even if one of them turned up KK you prolly still have odds to call here.
Villain 1 was playing 22/7 over 76 hands which is why i put him on a range as high as Q-Q, villain 2 was playing 50/33 but he was new to the table and only got 6 hands on him so no reads. Villain 1 who 3-bet us had shown down some strong hands such as QQ,AJs,JJ over the last 20 or so hands but lost alot of chips chasing draws and went from a 26k stack to his 3820. I guess the main thing that was going through my head was my hand plays so much better heads up rather than against two players. It just seems too nitty to fold here though, lol. Thanks for your thoughts guys
Agree with the above. It's only 21bb total to win 60ish and you have lots of chips.
I wouldn't fold
I really wanted to fold because i just had a gut instict that i was going to lose this pot but obviously i called so glad i made the right decision. Villain 1 showed QQ and 2 showed Ac9c. we lost but played correctly so gg.
Villain two w 50/33 stats is obv a spewtard donk which was confirmed by his cold 4betshove/call w A9s. If you open a hand as strong as AK you should be willing to call a 20bb shove and if another 20bb goes ai that just gives you nicer price to call. So I agree with what everyone else said by repeating :p
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