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89s in the small blind

nickyb

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May 28, 2012 - 8:45 am

PokerStars $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit Level XVIII (500/1000)
Seat 1: ammy2380 (47407 in chips)
Seat 2: d.fehlmann (16458 in chips)
Seat 3: pankrat057 (17699 in chips)
Seat 5: True1Reality (12922 in chips)
Seat 6: Rustynails78 (5531 in chips)
Seat 7: Dandee44 (15413 in chips)
Seat 8: cochito6666 (24276 in chips)
Seat 9: ozvillain77 (47957 in chips)
everyone posts antes
ozvillain77: posts small blind 500
ammy2380: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ozvillain77 [9s 8s]
d.fehlmann: folds
pankrat057: calls 1000
True1Reality: folds
Rustynails78: folds
Dandee44: folds
cochito6666: folds
ozvillain77: calls 500
ammy2380: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 5d 9h]
ozvillain77: bets 2000
ammy2380: raises 5000 to 7000
pankrat057: folds
ozvillain77: raises 5000 to 12000
ammy2380: calls 5000
*** TURN *** [4d 5d 9h] [6h]
ozvillain77: bets 12000
ammy2380: calls 12000
*** RIVER *** [4d 5d 9h 6h] [As]
ozvillain77: bets 12000
ammy2380: calls 12000

I can't remember the villain's exact stats but from what I'd seen they were pretty active and running at something like 57/45 – but only over a sample size of 15 hands.

How do you guys play this – do you fold pre-flop, raise preflop – just flat?

What do you put the villain on and I'd be interested in how people play the turn and river – keep barelling or slow down?

Do you pay attention to the stats/read or is it just to small a sample size?

Any comments would be appreciated.

pokerkids

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May 28, 2012 - 4:40 pm

You made the right move in calling the extra 500 preflop. You are getting great odds, and the hand flops pretty well. I would be cautious though if the player that limped utg+1 is any good. If he is good, then i would think he is limping in a premium every time, but if he isnt, then he could have a wide range and just isnt aware of his stack size. If utg+1 was good then i would check/fold to his bet on the flop, but assuming he is more of a fish (more probable) then I would lead flop. We can get value from smaller pairs, flush draws, and it lets us find out where we stand. Once the bb raises, I think we have to give him credit for a decent hand. He didn't invest any money preflop, and he has a short stack behind him that has yet to act. He's committing himself to the short stacks shove. I would just tend to fold to the raise. We are behind a lot of his raising range. We don't beat many 9's, and he could have any sort of two pair since he was in the bb. He could definitely be raising a flush draw, but i don't think its a good idea to be calling barrels in this spot being oop and not knowing whether we are up agaisnt a made hand or a draw. It's just not a great spot, and we still have 40+bb to work with if we fold, which is a boatload.

If you are to continue then I definitely think calling is best. Once you 3 bet the flop are you calling a shove? That just seems way to spewy. I'm curious as to what you range him on here? Are you betting the turn and river for value, bluff, or blockbetting? I just cant see what hands he calls you down with that you beat. If you put him on a draw, then I would check river and let him bluff missed diamonds.

All in all i would just let him have it on the flop. He makes a largish raise, and the turn and river are going to be super marginal spots, which we don't need to put ourselves in being this deep.

MentzeGR

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May 30, 2012 - 9:16 am

Hi mate,

my thoughts for the hand are like this:

Pre-flop, i agree to call and see the flop with 8-9 suited connectors.(The tricky part with calling here is that you dont know where you stand compared to the others, especially the BB, so i try to play the hand extremely conservative unless i hit something like 2pairs or better)
Flop, here I will also make my continuation bet as you did, but then the vilain (which we dont have a lot of inshight) is re-raising, so what I would evaluate here is a) what hands am i beating? b) do i have enough chips to leave this hand and move to the next one ? I would fold.
Turn, 6h not brining many changes, considering that I am having a top pair with a bad kicker, would not raise here, also if vilain is chasing straight/flush draw will most times (imo) check for a free card if given the opportunity.I wait to see and if a flsuh or straigh comes in river i would fold in his raise.

River, i think here things are not getting better with the ace, and if i calculated correct you can still perserve some chips, so I am no betting here and hope the vilain will check, if not I fold.

I have conluced that to play best marginal hands like these I need to a have a plan in advance like: call the flopl- cbet if i flop a top pair or a draw, but if reraised I am most of the times behind so fold and keep some chips for later stages.

That's just the way i am thinking about this hand, interested to hear some more comments 🙂

badabing78

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May 30, 2012 - 11:58 am

flatting pre is fine i guess

but i would play the flop much more passive -check/call- cause I think the way you have played it you help buildng a big pot with a marginal hand and we are oop – not optimal imo

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