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88 UTG in turbo v UTG+2 20bbs shove

Poking_Fun

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December 18, 2013 - 9:43 am

Late stages of a small turbo on stars. Do we isolate the jammer or fold here? No reads on villain.

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3500/t7000 Blinds + t875 – 9 players – View hand 2383849
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grancas (UTG+2): BB = 20.6, t144542
RunGoodPls (MP1): BB = 15.3, t106894
Cap.gancho70 (MP2): BB = 8.6, t60282
KenT_DemoN (CO): BB = 14.6, t102064
vagkos (BTN): BB = 17.3, t121180
Rafael Ender (SB): BB = 5.7, t39813
TWISTER22325 (BB): BB = 12.0, t83799
Hero (UTG): BB = 35.5, t248191
porox22 (UTG+1): BB = 33.8, t236499

Pre Flop: (t18375) Hero is UTG with 8 of clubs 8 of diamonds
Hero raises to t14000, porox22 calls t14000, grancas raises to t143667 all in

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December 18, 2013 - 10:56 pm

I think it is a fold; you can call with something like TT+, AQ+. I'm not calling 20 bb readless when I am UTG, even if there wasn't another player to worry about.

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December 19, 2013 - 6:31 am

I was gonna say ISO shove but I would like to analyse this further in order to further my own knowledge.

This looks like a juicy squeeze spot with these stack sizes although position does reduce that possibility.

Even when we give villain tight squeeze range of 44-JJ KQs QJs JTs AKs AQs AK AQand KQo we only have 53.9%equity. (Poker stove)

Although I think smaller pairs set mine here so removing 44-66 we have 47.8% equity. If anyone could tell me the next step in analysing this that would be great. Pot odds ??

I think analysing situations in this way could stop a bit of instinctively bad play (on my part) and provide a framework for objective decision making.

So at this stage it’s a fold margins are too thin. (Didn’t mean to hijack thread, thanks for the post 🙂

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December 21, 2013 - 10:01 am

I'm making what I consider a very easy fold – and 20 BB in a turbo is a lot of chips.

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December 21, 2013 - 12:17 pm

When you opened pre from UTG, did you notice the stack sizes of the the rest of the players? There are seven opp's with 3b shoving stacks (UTG+2, MP1 & 2, CO, BTN, SB and BB). Were you planning on calling any of these shoves? Before I open from UTG mid to late in a tourney, I look at stacks and make a plan for possible shoves. I imagine you would've called the <10bb stacks, but what about the 10-18bb stacks and the 20bb stack?

With the way this played out, I would fold here. The best you're hoping for is a race, as opponent probably isn't doing this with worse than 88. Folding still gives you 33bb's, plenty to work with.

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January 14, 2014 - 10:20 pm

Fold. You are utg and a flat utg+1. It’s a smaller stakes turbo so I think his range is pretty snug here. I would call with 10s+ Aqs+. Just can’t see him piling 55s-77s here.

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