K8o is a shove pretty much regardless of history at this point imo. If one wakes up with a hand so be it. In this spot I'm playing opportunity knocks more than the cards. With no history I'm shoving any two here.

It would depend on if I’d shoved like a maniac recently or have been pretty quiet. I would adjust my shoving range here based on my image and how it affects my FE, aswell as my reads on villains.

isaacjames – you think ther will be lighter calls at these levels?  I would have thought its the opposite…  If you're thinking theyre worse players at a low buy in then wouldnt they have tighter calling ranges? (Failing to put you on your wider shoving range).  But really it comes down to the player, if you see goods stats VPIP/PFR close together then theyre liking to understand youre shoving much wider, or is you see a player that limps a lot and doesn't raise much then I always assume he's gotta wake up with a hand to call you….

Obviously image / read dependent but seeing as were readless here I'd defo shove a medium K…

isaacjames said:

sammyboy said:

isaacjames – you think ther will be lighter calls at these levels?  I would have thought its the opposite…  If you're thinking theyre worse players at a low buy in then wouldnt they have tighter calling ranges? (Failing to put you on your wider shoving range).  But really it comes down to the player, if you see goods stats VPIP/PFR close together then theyre liking to understand youre shoving much wider, or is you see a player that limps a lot and doesn't raise much then I always assume he's gotta wake up with a hand to call you….

 

Obviously image / read dependent but seeing as were readless here I'd defo shove a medium K…

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I hear you, What I'm thinking is that at higher buyins there is definitely a much wider shoving range, so people will wait for a spot to shove rather than call light.  At these levels sometimes these guys dont see a diff between shoving and calling a shove, so they will shove tighter but call lighter (i.e: I have KTs I should call……rather than wait to be first in and shove J9s or Q8o) so I am discarding the bottom 50% of my shoving range.  Maybe I am wrong on this….who knows, Id like to hear from others that play often at these stakes.
 

Please keep in mind that everyone is short here, when big stacks are at play things change IMO, and the general assumption of tighter calls makes more sense to me.  Bottom line,   at lower buyins people understand Equity, and especially fold equity, less.

from my experience playing turbos at these levels you do get people folding too much to shoves. What you also get at these levels is the people you describe above, theyre calling off way to light just because they think your stealing and they'll call with any 2, literally.

So i think you get more an array of different types of BAD at these buy-ins. Bad – calling too tight, and BAD – maniacally calling anything coz its their big blind.

Which is why people say small stakes is a minefield.