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1) I don’t like folding
2) I don’t like open shipping
3) I don’t like limping
4) I don’t like raise/folding
5) I don’t like raise/calling
thoughts??????
Stage #257102553 Tourney ID 5624398 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 1,000 – 2010-06-30 01:07:39 (ET)
Table: 8 (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 – HAMMER_U (23,420 in chips)
Seat 2 – -BLACKFOURS- (32,977 in chips)
Seat 3 – 1MRNICEGUY (37,284 in chips)
Seat 4 – WARNO20 (29,923 in chips)
Seat 5 – NYCARDSHARK (18,073 in chips)
Seat 6 – WILDMAN19 (18,725 in chips)
Seat 7 – FRANKIEBABS (16,209 in chips)
Seat 8 – JPP5039 (89,626 in chips)
Seat 9 – COLORADOCASH (53,625 in chips)
HAMMER_U – Ante 100
-BLACKFOURS- – Ante 100
1MRNICEGUY – Ante 100
WARNO20 – Ante 100
NYCARDSHARK – Ante 100
WILDMAN19 – Ante 100
FRANKIEBABS – Ante 100
JPP5039 – Ante 100
COLORADOCASH – Ante 100
-BLACKFOURS- – Posts small blind 500
1MRNICEGUY – Posts big blind 1,000
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HAMMER_U [6h 6d]
WARNO20 – Folds
NYCARDSHARK – Folds
WILDMAN19 – Folds
FRANKIEBABS – Folds
JPP5039 – Folds
COLORADOCASH – Folds
HAMMER_U – Raises 2,525 to 2,525
-BLACKFOURS- – All-In(Raise) 32,377 to 32,877
1MRNICEGUY – Folds
HAMMER_U – All-In 20,795
-BLACKFOURS- – returned (9,557) : not called
*** FLOP *** [9c 9h Kc]
*** TURN *** [9c 9h Kc] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [9c 9h Kc 7c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HAMMER_U – Shows [6h 6d] (Two Pair, kings and nines)
-BLACKFOURS- – Shows [Ac Qs] (Two Pair, kings and nines)
-BLACKFOURS- Collects 48,540 from main pot
-BLACKFOURS- Collects Bounty Prize of $10
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(48,540)
Board [9c 9h Kc 7c Kd]
Seat 1: HAMMER_U (dealer) HI:lost with Two Pair, kings and nines [6h 6d – B:Kd,B:Kc,B:9h,B:9c,B:7c]
Seat 2: -BLACKFOURS- (small blind) won Total (48,540) All-In HI
48,540) with Two Pair, kings and nines(ace kicker) [Ac Qs – B:Kd,B:Kc,B:9h,B:9c,P:Ac] BOUNTY awarded: ($10)
Seat 3: 1MRNICEGUY (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: WARNO20 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: NYCARDSHARK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: WILDMAN19 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: FRANKIEBABS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: JPP5039 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: COLORADOCASH Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Dont show the results it may changes peoples opinion of how to play the hand. I would say that 22BB is kind of an ackward stack size. I would probably ship if I was playing here, if it were 25BB I probably would just open raise. Limping is never a good idea IMO. It does suck that you have medium strength hand and your UTG and have to get through a lot of players. Also you open raised and called it off to a shove so clearly shoving would be better, although I dont think it would have changed anything in how the hand was played out. So I would shove first and folding would be my second choice given your stack size. You didnt mention the table dynamics and how many maniacs would be acting behind you, they may make a fold a better option…..just my 2 cents.
TPE Management
March 17, 2010
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100% just ship it here. You don’t want to flip with anyone who is trying to resteal or talk yourself into a fold PF. Your 66 won’t play well post if just called. If you get called by better it’s just a cooler.
I would have def shipped 20bb….22 seems pretty deep…
1)What is the deepest you would shove here RonFezBuddy?
2) What would your plan be for playing the hand if you were slightly deeper than what you would shove?
TPE Management
March 17, 2010
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1)What is the deepest you would shove here RonFezBuddy?
Assuming a calling range of 99+,AJs+,AQo+ (which is 5.4% of hands) and not sure 99 calls but let’s leave it in. That means the 2 left to act call only ~10.5% of combined. When called your 66 has ~36.5% equity.
So ~89.5% of the time you win the blinds. 10.5% of the time you are called and 36.5% of the time you win a monster pot, 63.5% you get stacked since both blinds have you covered.
The EV of shoving is +1575.
Playing with some larger stack sizes it’s profitable all the way up to 80bbs which of course is silly to do that deep. My cutoff for a move like this is probably 24bbs or so.
2) What would your plan be for playing the hand if you were slightly deeper than what you would shove?
Raise call up to about 33bbs or so.
i raise the button so much here that raise calling is definitely fine. 20bb you can shove
raise call looks good if you have been active, raise fold if the are uber nitty. shoving is +ev and uneploitable
reads on players left to act are importnant as to the best line
2 options 1 open fold which I dont really like but I like better then raise fold. But the most plus ev option IMO is to just shove here. Seems pretty standard. I mean in this spot your getting called anyway but its all part of the math of the play. This is a pretty easy and standard shove.
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