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August 16, 2013
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Hi. I played a session on halloween and won a bounty tournament. It wasn't a big one, but I ran preety hot, so I was a little bit excited. It was past 4 AM and I am preety sure those factors influenced me. I feel like I did the wrong move to get into this hand, but as I started playing it this way, I'm not sure if this was a good spot to take or not. Your toughts?
Poker Stars €4.50+€0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40000/t80000 Blinds + t8000 – 9 players – View hand 2603278
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
allinhub (MP1): BB = 16.8, t1346520
NiiThin'7 (MP2): BB = 22.2, t1774992
neuville25 (CO): BB = 53.1, t4247667
Benplayer511 (BTN): BB = 14.1, t1128524
Hero (SB): BB = 39.8, t3187040
miloud88400 (BB): BB = 29.0, t2318708
ownercorse (UTG): BB = 10.0, t801042
zakariens14 (UTG+1): BB = 40.9, t3273174
Fredototo59 (UTG+2): BB = 21.3, t1702333
Pre Flop: (t192000) Hero is SB with 6
A
5 folds, neuville25 raises to t160000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t420000, 1 fold, neuville25 calls t260000
Flop: (t992000) 5
5
9 (2 players)
Hero bets t480000, neuville25 calls t480000
Turn: (t1952000) A (2 players)
Hero checks, neuville25 bets t480000, Hero calls t480000
River: (t2912000) T (2 players)
Hero checks, neuville25 bets t2859667 all in, Hero calls t1799040 all in
1st place ~1.4k
2nd ~ 1.05k
3rd ~750
4th ~570
5th ~400
6th ~320
7th ~250
8th ~170
9th ~110
So let me explain what was going trough my head while playing this hand:
Villan was chip-leader, not much info about him. It was like the 7th hand at this FT. So I see his open preety wide. It's only me and another player at the table that can take more than half of his stack in one hand. So I get greedy and 3bet, thinking that if he won't fold here, a Cbet on flop will be effective most of the time. On a 995 flop, I feel like a Cbet is proffitable and I make it 480k. After my cbet and his call, the Ace of Spades came and I het Showdown value. I decide to check, thinking that I won't get a call from worse hands a lot of the times. He bets the same amount I bet on flop (1/4 pot) and now I think I have to decide if I go with the hand vs a bet on river. I don't see much sense in calling here and folding to any river bets. is this bet a tell of a great hand so many times that i should just shut down or can it be a bluff many times (two flushdraws on turn) and I should go with it?
Overall, I feel like I should not take theese high variance spots at this stage, wait to ladder up a little bit more before going wild. I feel like it's an ICM disaster, although I didn't learned but the superficial basics about ICM.
I can't wait for your responses.
Sorry for the long post, here's a banana
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November 27, 2013
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With a few shorts stacks and such a poor hand, it's very rare I'm going to be 3b'ing here. A few things going against your 3b.
With 40bb effective stacks, he has the ability to flat you and put you in disgusting spots. You have a hand that can't make the nuts and plays extremely poor post. In reality, with your effective stack sizes, he could also just cram it in your face.
Preflop sizing is good, however your sizing otf is a little big. A small bet will accomplish the same thing.
Check on the turn is okay-ish, although exact hud numbers on villain would really help, as well as a few things leading up to this that have influenced your image. Have you shown up with a bluff previous? If so, lets keep betting and try and rep flush draws to get value from a 9 or 77 ott. If not, maybe check and rep QQ type holdings to let him bluff.
Anyway, his range could consist of a lot of flush draws and a few punts (wug timing tells? The quicker he shoves, the more likely he has a bluff). I assume that he's quite polarized, as I am not expecting villains at these stakes to value shove a thin value range.
Would be a good spot to run some numbers in flopzilla or something. He has heaps of flush draws, floats such as QKss, Kjss, 78ss. Another plus going for you is you have a 6 which blocks some of his 5x combos.
Anyway, post his hud stats/more reads to help determine what his flop call and preflop range is so we can narrow some stuff down.
At a glance, I could see calling this river a lot. Hope my thoughts were helpful. Glgl
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December 6, 2012
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Nice post Reason. I agree with the preflop 3bet being the biggest mistake. You shouldn't be provoking a conflict OOP against a player who has you covered with a hand that flops so poorly. Just call pre and go from there.
As played, I very strongly disagree with your logic about “if I call a 1/4 pot bet on the turn I have to call a pot-sized river shove.” Just think about that. Think about how badly someone could exploit you if they knew you were playing that way. You are supposed to call a 1/4 pot bet very often and a PSB much less often. Granted the threat of a PSB will make it correct to call the small turn bet somewhat less, but it is definitely true that your range for calling turn and folding river should be larger than your range for calling turn and calling river.
December 28, 2012
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Andrew, you're advocating calling from the SB with A6o?
Whenever I'm in the SB I have your words ringing in my ears – “if you never called from the SB it wouldn't be a huge mistake”.
I just fold pre here, fwiw.
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