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[$5r 5K GTD] Rate my bluff...
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December 28, 2010 - 11:05 pm
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Last 5 mins of rebuy period

 

Absolute Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150.00/t300.00 Blinds – 9 players

TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SB: t18883.00 62.94 BBs

BB: t420.00 1.40 BBs

UTG: t2080.00 6.93 BBs

UTG+1: t5996.00 19.99 BBs

UTG+2: t5788.00 19.29 BBs

MP1: t9471.00 31.57 BBs

Hero (MP2): t13489.00 44.96 BBs

CO: t9059.00 30.20 BBs

BTN: t12066.00 40.22 BBs

 

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is MP2 with K of diamonds Q of hearts

4 folds, Hero raises to t900, CO calls t900, 3 folds

Flop: (t2250) 7 of spades J of spades J of diamonds (2 players)

Hero bets t1000.00, CO calls t1000

Turn: (t4250) 6 of clubs (2 players)

Hero bets t11564.00

 

Villian didn't seem anything special, probably a casual player and was a little loose.

When he just flats the flop cbet I find it very unlikely he has Jx as I would expect him to raise the flop.

 

I have him on A high, pocket pairs and flush draws/combo draws. 55-TT being most likely.

The problem is I dont know if this type of player will fold out some of these hands.

 

I feel this is a board I have to double barrel If i am going to cbet as they are great boards to float.

Anyone think this is just spewy at these limits? One thing I have noticed is that most players can't seem to hand read very well and are probably on level 1 and therefore I should just play ABC.

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It's spewy since you're risking a lot to win a little that doesn't change your situation any. It also doesn't look very believable at all in my eyes. Jx certainly does not do this. It looks like you could have some midpairs or a total bluff.

Pretty sure you could make a normal sized bet and still get folds a lot of the time.

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Yeah good point about the normal sized bets, was definitely no need to shove… but I was thinking that if I had Jx I would do this alot and have done it a lot and always get snapped by midpairs. (which is probably a terrible reason to bluff do it but im obsessed with balance as primarily being a cash game player).

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i would probably snap you off with any pair because this looks only like a flush draw.  You never do this with a jack, like fkcoolers said, also i don't think you ever do this with midpairs.  I don't know you, but I assume you don't play AA-QQ like this, so it leaves you with flush draws and very ambitious bluffs.

 

I play a lot of cash myself and first of all, balance isn't that important against mediocre players.  Second, how can you be balanced in this spot?  If you just do this with Jx and air you have very few playable combos of the remaing 2 jacks left.  Especially if the only off suit combos you are playing are AJo.  Think of all the combos that are air here or flush draws.  With you overbetting the pot you need to get folds like 75% of the time with this bet, but you will have some equity in the pot occasionally so we can make the fold % like 70%.  Is your range 70% Jx combos here?    

Overbets are an important part of deepstack poker and useful in certain situations.  A good spot to overbet is when someone has capped their range, which has not happened here b/c this guy could play many hands this way at these stack sizes including QQ+.  He would call all of his value hands on the flop with these stack sizes, so his range is still very wide and includes lots of nut type hands.  

If you are obssesd about balance you should make a more standard betsize on the turn which would be a profitable bluff, semi-bluff, thin value from an overpair type hand, and value from a jack.  That makes you very hard to play against.  Overbets are not for balance nuts, but they are useful as balance is overrated unless you are playing 1kNL.  I could go on for a while on these topics, but I doubt many people even read up to this point haha so I'll put a cork in it for now. 

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