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$55 40k facing a 4x rai
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February 16, 2011 - 8:57 pm
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Hey guys,

Villain raised 3.2x the hand before with TT.  now he raises 4x fm mp1 and i'm confused in the sb w ajs.  The bb has only a 4x stack left and I'm suspicious he wants to iso him. Whats the best line?

 

Poker Stars $50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Setherson2 (UTG): BB = 11.8, t2953
jacarema (UTG+1): BB = 112.6, t28158
coryward (UTG+2): BB = 50.2, t12540
RedRooster84 (MP1): BB = 31.4, t7838
ATTACKOBERT (MP2): BB = 47.8, t11945
Ego_Breaker (CO): BB = 62.4, t15610
wendel5ailor (BTN): BB = 30.6, t7642
Hero (SB): BB = 47.6, t11901
Mr Blankey (BB): BB = 5.7, t1425

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is SB with J of hearts A of hearts

3 folds, RedRooster84 raises to t1000, 3 folds, Hero ?? ?

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February 16, 2011 - 9:51 pm
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i dont think folding is too nitty here

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February 16, 2011 - 10:55 pm
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Thanks Benny, 

Folding and 3bet/get it in were the two options I was thinking.  I didn't want to flat and play fit or fold oop so I eliminated calling.

I put villain on range of 66-kk KQ+. maybe even KJs considering the bb was commited and his pf rai size looked like he wanted an iso. Do you think 3-betting/getting it in has merrit or just fold/move on to next hand as this spot is admittedly pretty marginal?

Someother relevant factors include:

1) I hadn't been too active at that table so far

2)My 3 bet looks strong and I can probably fold out a good portion of his range

3) He just won a big pot hand before and might not be looking to get it in right now

Then on the other side:

1) He is raising two hands in a row which is generally an indicator of strength from a weaker player

2) He is raising after just winning a big hand, which generally can also be a sign of strength from a weaker player.

3) His 4x open is making me think he's probably a weaker player

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February 16, 2011 - 11:13 pm
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i doubt villains that 4x actually fold anything if someone shoves on them, and given your read that they 3.2xed it with TT, i would say you have fair reason to believe this is TT+ to be honest.

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February 17, 2011 - 5:34 am
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tricky spot. i'd prolly be prudent here and fold. Dont want to get into a marginal spot here and you'll prolly get to see villain's hand when bb calls ai. that will get you some more info you can use later in the tourny. with just too many reasons to believe villain's strong here i'd take the sfae route. was there a showdown?

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February 17, 2011 - 12:02 pm
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Thanks Benny and King:

I wound up 3betting/getting it in and Villain had Ak (Benny thanks for incuding what your range for the villain btw). The good news is I binked a Jack on the flop.  The bad news is the villain berated and stalked me the whole tourneysmile

 

Appreciate the feedback.

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February 17, 2011 - 2:09 pm
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Ya I just fold here as well……really not a big fan of any other options and 3b getting it in just seems unneccessary this deep.

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February 17, 2011 - 3:41 pm
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Cougars: Do you put villain on same range as Benny?

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