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evprop

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February 7, 2013 - 6:07 pm

Hi all

I recently started playing mtts again and in this turbo i faced this hand...

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 06, 06:21:12 ET 2013
Table Turbo 750 Guarantee (248726321) Table 5 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button

Seat 6: Hero ( 2940 ) - VPIP: 9, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 2.8, Hands: 26544
Seat 8: Player8 ( 3160 ) - VPIP: 60, PFR: 30, 3B: 50, AF: 0.3, Hands: 10
Seat 9: Player9 ( 2430 ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 2.0, Hands: 117
Player8 posts big blind [100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  5s 5h ]
Player9 calls [100]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero raises [300]
Player8 raises [3060] (all in)
Player9 folds

Its early game with 30bbs… i felt like villains range was a lot of Ax usually AT+ and at the time i will admit i wasnt thinking of the higher pps that are beating me.

So even though this is a turbo, do i fold here instead of taking a shot at doubling up early??

I also would like to hear thoughts about the same scenario with 20bbs too?

rumsey182

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February 7, 2013 - 9:57 pm

fold ainec your flipping or crushed

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February 8, 2013 - 1:12 am

fold you have 37% v a range of A10s+ AJo+ 77+ and even then this is a pretty liberal range

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February 8, 2013 - 9:54 am

duggs said:

fold you have 37% v a range of A10s+ AJo+ 77+ and even then this is a pretty liberal range

even if he is doing that wider we are still not doing much better against him lol

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February 8, 2013 - 10:30 am

i hear what everyone is saying thanks, its just that i see these plays so often and i would say 80% of the time its with Ax and at the time i got it in my head i was slightly ahead. I will fold in the future, but what about at 20bbbs in the same spot here??

Probably nothing changes but with the mtt being a turbo blind level i thought things were at more of a stage where we are willing to hit the call button?

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February 8, 2013 - 1:46 pm

Let's say you started the hand with 20bb were you raising with the intent of folding to a shove or were you planning on calling a shove anyways?

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February 8, 2013 - 3:33 pm

dependant on player i guess… if i was feeling he was shoving a lot of broadways Ax etc i prob am not folding as i feel because its a turbo i dont have long before the 20bbs turn into 10bss

Please these are just my honest thoughts and if you see im thinking poorly i would appreciate the help in turning my thinking process around thks

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February 8, 2013 - 6:49 pm

rumsey182 said:

duggs said:

fold you have 37% v a range of A10s+ AJo+ 77+ and even then this is a pretty liberal range

even if he is doing that wider we are still not doing much better against him lol

what? yes we are, the more combos off unpaired cards and pairs lower than 55 and Ax below 55 the more our equity converges towards the 60% we have v a random hand?

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February 8, 2013 - 6:54 pm

for example its a close call v 22+ A2o+ K2+Q8o+ Q7s+ J8o+ J7s+ T7s+ 98o 65s+ with 53.6% equity

and a snap v atc. as we have 60% equity