November 11, 2014
What is the correct play at the river and is the hand range analysis below appropriate?
$5 Re-buy ($1,500 Gtd) – SB vs BB (two largest stacks collide)
We are at the post-ante stage, with about 25 players remaining out of a field of 150. The pre-flop pot is 2,000 and I’m chip leader with a stack of 66,000 (M>30).
Small blind: 400; Big blind: 800; Antes: 800 (total)
Play folds to the small blind who’s second in chips with 47,700 (M=24). He raises 2.5x to 2,000.
I don’t know much about him other than his VPIP/PFR stats – 21/16 over 120 hands. His perception of me is probably a TAG or standard reg (my stats: 19/15).
I sit on the Big Blind with: Jd Th
I call and we go to the flop.
Flop: Ts 7d 5s
Pot: 4,800
My stack: 64,900; Villain stack: 46,100
Hero bets 2,168. I call.
Turn: Ts 7d 5s As
Pot: 9,136
My stack: 62,700; Villain stack: 44,000
Villain bets 4,068. I call.
River: Ts 7d 5s As 6d
Pot: 17,272
My stack: 58,600; Villain stack: 39,900
Villain bets 15,268. Action on me- shall I call/fold?
I’ve attempted to range the villain below.
Given villain’s bet sizing on the river I think we can remove most, if not all, of his marginal range.
Monsters:
-Flushes. Combos = about 20
-Strong Aces (AK, AQ). Combos (33.33% discounted)=16
These mirk the waters between strong and marginal but i think, given the SPR at the river is only 2.5, we might count these as either monsters or a proxy for weird marginal bets.
-Set and two pair. Combos (after appropriate discounting)=22
These are heavily discounted due to the villain’s bet sizing on the turn. With 3 spades on the board at the turn, I expect him to bet slightly heavier than 44% pot. I decided to count all A6 combinations (of which there are 9) and discount the remaining two pair + sets by 66.66%.
-Straight (98). Combos (50% discounted due to the unattractive third spade on the turn)= 8
Total monster combos: 66
Air:
-Turned gutshots + flush draws (KQo, KJo, QJo with a spade) that missed the river. Combos= about 17
-Complete whiffs (including 5s or 6s turned into a bluff). Combos=?
In order to justify calling, villain’s air range must be around 33 (ie. he needs to be bluffing 1/3 of the time). So there basically need to be 16 combos of whiffs in his range. Do you think that this might be the case given:
-his wider range from Small blind and
-i flatted his bet on the turn in a show of weakness.
Any input much appreciated because ranging these small vs big blind is so difficult. Actual outcome: I folded.
TPE Pro
August 25, 2012
This is a good analysis of the hand, and a really close spot. I think the thing that probably pushes it closer to a fold than a call for me is that you can have a bunch of flushes/2pairs/straights here to call with on the river, which means JTo isn’t really very close to the top of your range, so it’s not particularly exploitable for you to fold it. It’s also worth noting that you have no spade blockers, and your Jack blocks a lot of villain’s potential 3-barrel bluffs like QJ/KJ/J9/J8, etc.
I might call here with something like QT with the Qs or KT with the Ks. JT with the Js is pretty close. JT with the Js might actually be closer than Ax without a spade, tough to say. Also worth noting that it would be somewhat bad in ICM terms for villain to get into a big pot with you here when he doesn’t have it, so the better the player villain is, the more his bluffing frequency might decrease here when you’re the only player left who can bust him.
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