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jnd11011
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March 7, 2011 - 3:15 pm
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i had a decent stack of 10,600.    AVG was 6600

what would you do?

 

Full Tilt Poker $8,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t80/t160 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Chisul10124 (UTG+2): t5340 33.38 BBs
ppinurshoe (MP1): t5160 32.25 BBs
jnd1101 (MP2): t10635 66.47 BBs
MARK9NINE (CO): t2320 14.50 BBs
jorgisjelis (BTN): t6000 37.50 BBs
pocketeightsroc (SB): t3260 20.38 BBs
spartains (BB): t10965 68.53 BBs
xxcelticfcxxno1 (UTG): t4350 27.19 BBs
macadocious11 (UTG+1): t6740 42.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t240) jnd1101 is MP2 with Q of spades Q of diamonds
4 folds, jnd1101 raises to t480, 3 folds, spartains raises to t1520, jnd1101 raises to t3360, spartains calls t1840

Flop: (t6800) 6 of hearts J of diamonds 8 of diamonds (2 players)
spartains bets t6800

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March 7, 2011 - 3:32 pm
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With no history, I prolly wouldn’t 4bet the QQ in position preflop since your asking him to fold all pairs that you beat and only continue with AK and JJ+.

As played the flop could be better since JJ got there but his pot donk bet looks fishy. I would prolly flat since I don’t see him leading pot with JJJ. Raising maybe ok if you think he could spaz out but that would depend on your read of villain. Folding if you read him for strength (you only see him play like this with monsters) although that seems unlikely, people play bad at these stakes in 4bet pots.

He’s likely taking a stab with AK, AQ maybe or is playing AA or KK bad. Hard to tell at these stakes. I still flat.

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March 7, 2011 - 3:45 pm
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I am assuming No reads are available and still ways to go to the real money.  As played, that flop is prettgood for you, no aces or kings, I would say his 3betting 4bet callling range is around 88+ AKo AKs.  you are a 52.% Favorite against that range.  if you open up the range to AQ 55+ you become a 60% favorite.  I am shoving the rest of m chips in.

 

His strong donk bet does indicate strength as I have seen players make this play with Aces, and this line also looks like he hit a set, but there many more hands in his range you beat, and oyu might want to assess maybe a 5% of the time he is bluffing.

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March 7, 2011 - 3:52 pm
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the flop  bet was most of his stack, he had 805 behind after that. weird lead huh

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March 7, 2011 - 4:01 pm
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isaacjames said:

I am assuming No reads are available and still ways to go to the real money.  As played, that flop is prettgood for you, no aces or kings, I would say his 3betting 4bet callling range is around 88+ AKo AKs.  you are a 52.% Favorite against that range.  if you open up the range to AQ 55+ you become a 60% favorite.  I am shoving the rest of m chips in.

 

His strong donk bet does indicate strength as I have seen players make this play with Aces, and this line also looks like he hit a set, but there many more hands in his range you beat, and oyu might want to assess maybe a 5% of the time he is bluffing.


my read was he was playing solid, not many hands at all, but i have been semi LAG. this early in tourney.

his 3x+ 3bet out of position seemed like a pck pr but i felt i was ahead

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March 7, 2011 - 4:08 pm
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Oops, missed that it was for most his stack. I probably ain’t folding this although it smells like KK and he’s ‘protecting’ against a flush draw or an ace. He should be check/shoving tho I think with big hands.

Im still seeing him do this with AK enough to play for the rest. Your getting 2/1 he may also have TT and just didn’t wanna fold pre.

Might be a lot different if you had any solid reads.

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March 7, 2011 - 5:18 pm
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well the huge bet on flop made me think it was more like AK,AQs, 77+ here instead of bigger pck pr.

 he would check raise his big hands i would think

anyway i tanked for alittle bit then call that huge bet.

he flipped over AKo, put me over 20k and ITM right now as im writing, gl me

 

ty for imput guys

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March 7, 2011 - 5:35 pm
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Wp

Just don’t see him donk leading pot on the flop with a hand that he likes, unless he’s a total fish (which is totally possible at these stakes). Bigdog always says in his vids to rarely believe the donk-lead. That with the pot size bet – practically begging you to fold – makes this a call

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March 8, 2011 - 3:47 pm
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Really seemed like AK to me. Since he took the time to 3bet and ONLY call your 4bet then KK and AA were not likely, because if you are 4betting then you are not gonna fold and he would jam KK or AA pre. Good flop for u…..we are never folding post flop here.

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