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Hi guys,
villian and me both are very active, he started opening a bunch of pots – lots of back to back.He is profitable reg.
I'm also very active but we didnt tangle with one another cause of position.All my showdowns at the table were decent.
I 2nd barrel the turn planinng jamming the river.. however K goes down and now I'm not sure if it's a good card to do that.Was putting him on midpair all the way..Just give up?
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400.00/t800.00 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
ConfuserID (UTG+1): t24430.00 30.54 BBs
Crisco18 (UTG+2): t20338.00 25.42 BBs
lopergolo (MP1): t28899.00 36.12 BBs
george6508 (MP2): t28733.00 35.92 BBs
Hero (CO): t45352.00 56.69 BBs
SchFerreira (BTN): t21295.00 26.62 BBs
smokingsim (SB): t29606.00 37.01 BBs
Sowldagaz (BB): t25201.00 31.50 BBs
LiroLa (UTG): t39355.00 49.19 BBs
Pre Flop: (t1200) Hero is CO with 5
4
LiroLa raises to t1800, 4 folds, Hero raises to t4250, 3 folds, LiroLa calls t2450
Flop: (t9700) 3
Q 7
(2 players)
LiroLa checks, Hero bets t4900.00, LiroLa calls t4900
Turn: (t19500) 5 (2 players)
LiroLa checks, Hero bets t8990.00, LiroLa calls t8990
River: (t37480) K (2 players)
LiroLa checks,
I think you are 100% beat here and you are trying to pull off a complete bluff. The conservative thing is to give up. I actually think the K is a good card to continue on. It is an over card to the board and although its in his range, it is in your range too. I might triple barrel.
Have you seen him call down 3 barrels previously? Have you seen him play middle pair in such a way? What range have you put him on form utg? Have you seen him showdown any utg opens?
Once you pick up some showdown on the turn, it migth be worth checking for pot control, and calling a small lead on river. Or to show soem real strength, check turn and raise river…..
sammyboy said:
Have you seen him call down 3 barrels previously? Have you seen him play middle pair in such a way? What range have you put him on form utg? Have you seen him showdown any utg opens?
Once you pick up some showdown on the turn, it migth be worth checking for pot control, and calling a small lead on river. Or to show soem real strength, check turn and raise river…..
His range UTG imo is somthing like 89s+JTo+ any pair.
His raise – call range there isnt the same at all, prob like 77+ AJs+ AQo+ also it's the first time I 3betted him.
I dont like checking turn cuz I dont think I have any showdown there after him calling me on that type of flop.. this why I dont like checking the turn
What size of bet do you think he folds to on the riv? I don't think he's folding any Q or K. He has put in almost half his stack by the turn and I doubt he's folding now.
IMO pre-flop is the spot you should be looking at. You discussed your plan for the river but what was your plan pre flop? To get him to fold pre? To flop a draw/2 pair and give up if you don't…or to bluff three streets?
As played I check back the flop, bet ~3600 on the turn (looking for a fold obv.) and check back the river.
swet1 said:
What size of bet do you think he folds to on the riv? I don't think he's folding any Q or K. He has put in almost half his stack by the turn and I doubt he's folding now.
IMO pre-flop is the spot you should be looking at. You discussed your plan for the river but what was your plan pre flop? To get him to fold pre? To flop a draw/2 pair and give up if you don't…or to bluff three streets?
As played I check back the flop, bet ~3600 on the turn (looking for a fold obv.) and check back the river.
yeah I think he folds his bottom range there preflop obv, not looking for value with 54cc 
Post it's depends..
I'm sorry I just cant see any logic on checking the flop there 
super dry flop that I have to cbet with my entire range.
My logic in checking the flop is to keep the pot small. If you feel you have to c-bet your whole range on the flop, you could make it a bit smaller, like 25-30% pot. If he's going to fold to the c-bet it will work that small.
July 3, 2010
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We really only have 3 Kx hands in our range – KK, AK, KQ, and I'm not sure if you 3 bet KQ pre-flop.
Without some strong post-flop reads I don't tend to run big three barrel bluffs when I have a comfortable stack.
I'm definitely c-betting the flop. That seems automatic. Probably also barreling the turn once I actually pick up equity and then checking behind on the river, weak as that seems.
I will say if our plan is to 3 barrel bluff this hand we need to size our bets differently so that our shove is the size of the pot or even a slight overbet. As played it looks like we are jamming (effectively) 21,000 into 37,500 so I think our villain will sigh/call his Qx hands a lot, feeling like he's too invested to fold. If he has hands like 66, 88, 99, TT we'd still want to apply more pressure here.
FkCoolers said:
We really only have 3 Kx hands in our range – KK, AK, KQ, and I'm not sure if you 3 bet KQ pre-flop.
Without some strong post-flop reads I don't tend to run big three barrel bluffs when I have a comfortable stack.
I'm definitely c-betting the flop. That seems automatic. Probably also barreling the turn once I actually pick up equity and then checking behind on the river, weak as that seems.
I will say if our plan is to 3 barrel bluff this hand we need to size our bets differently so that our shove is the size of the pot or even a slight overbet. As played it looks like we are jamming (effectively) 21,000 into 37,500 so I think our villain will sigh/call his Qx hands a lot, feeling like he's too invested to fold. If he has hands like 66, 88, 99, TT we'd still want to apply more pressure here.
Yo coolers sup? I'm alex007metal from tilt..
Anyway thx for the comment.
Ya I gave up eventually on river… he turns over AQ.
Since I put him more on medium pairs I gave up cause I figured he would probaly fold them on turn already.
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