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Wondering if my 4-bet sizing here is too big? I expected a fold and didn't have a plan facing the 5-bet.
Would you 4-bet this spot, if so how much and what do you do as played?
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t150.00/t300.00 Blinds – 5 players
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Player1 (SB): t9945.00 33.15 BBs – VPIP: 40, PFR: 40, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 5
Player2 (BB): t20160.00 67.20 BBs – VPIP: 30, PFR: 24, 3B: 18, AF: 4.0, Hands: 50
Hero (UTG): t22966.00 76.55 BBs – VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8.1, AF: 2.9, Hands: 76
Player5 (CO): t6245.00 20.82 BBs – VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: Infinity, Hands: 76
Player6 (BTN): t7320.00 24.40 BBs – VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 14
Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is UTG with Q
A
Hero raises to t690, 3 folds, Player2 raises to t1500, Hero raises to t4950, Player2 raises to t20135
4b sizing way too big imo. I am def 4b this spot. I make it 3475, which is plenty. A good rule of thumb is this: he raised you approx 800 chips so a good re-raise size is 2.2-2.5x. So 2.5x his raise is 2k which would equal 3500. This will put him in a tough spot, because now if he 5b jams it’s just way too huge of a raise and you can fold. But if he makes it like 8kish i prolly 6b jam this all day. Especially since villain’s stats are pretty aggro and the obv reason that you have AQs 5 handed. I like this line a lot actually. It's obv high variance but such a good 6b jam spot. Give em the ol' stuffy baker if he 5b you.
Any history going on with villain here prior?
As far as sizing I think it's also a bit big… Especially if you don't have a plan for a 5bet. My sizing thoughts are stated by jlude above.
Good videos on TPE here discussing stack sizes and what you can do against different types.
October 6, 2010
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i agree that 4bet sizing should be really small here – you have position, i think you can just about click it back.
can we flat the 3bet here and play in position though? 4bet-folding seems like a waste of AQs tbh. i would probably rather flat the 3bet and flat any flop with the plan to take it away on the turn than do anything pre
DrewPeacoq8 said:
Any history going on with villain here prior?
As far as sizing I think it's also a bit big… Especially if you don't have a plan for a 5bet. My sizing thoughts are stated by jlude above.
Good videos on TPE here discussing stack sizes and what you can do against different types.
I've three bet him twice and got folds, he raised in LP first in both times…I was in the blinds.
I think 4 betting is not good here. You are turning AQdd into a bluff by 4 betting if you are folding to the 5b. Flat and play the pot in position, you are both relatively deepstacked. Then destroy him post flop 🙂 I would rather 4b hands like AJo, KJo, Ato etc but even at the 150 300 level im inclined to take the cautious route.
As the OP says I felt it was too big but realized it after I bet (auto-pilot). Flatting the 3-bet is an option but with history and stats I don't give the V much credit on the 3-bet. Oh yeah and he was from Brazil 
I don't mind the 4-bet but obv if I make it smaller I can fold to a 5-bet without losing the extra chips or as JLUDEOBV mentioned, take a higher variance line and 6-bet jam.
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August 3, 2011
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What kind of tournament is this? 5 handed and preante?
Doubt im 6 bet jamming aqs to a bb oop 5 bet preante. Flat in position looks to be the best option here I think unless you have been stealing a lot from EP and now you have a real hand. If you are going to 4bet just make it 2x-2.2x is enough especially if you are folding to a 5bet. But if you are folding to a 5bet I think you should flat in position instead and pot control.
DannyN13 said:
What kind of tournament is this? 5 handed and preante?
Doubt im 6 bet jamming aqs to a bb oop 5 bet preante. Flat in position looks to be the best option here I think unless you have been stealing a lot from EP and now you have a real hand. If you are going to 4bet just make it 2x-2.2x is enough especially if you are folding to a 5bet. But if you are folding to a 5bet I think you should flat in position instead and pot control.
HEM messed with the hh conversion…I'll have to check the original hh to see if there are antes in yet, seems strange.
It is a 6max SSMTT, we just happen to be 5 handed ATM, there are about 90 players left pays 75 and we are in the top 20 as far as stack sizes.
FWIW I agree 6-bet is not a great option against his 5-bet range. I believe AQs is good against his 18% 3-bet range which is why I 4-bet.
Yeh I understand you are thinking your ahead of his range but your hand is too good to just turn into a bluff and just 4b fold. I dont like this line really.
As played though I make it like 3,300 incase he spazzes out on us…
If you were OOP I would make it 2.5/2.6 x FWIW
its 5 handed and he's pretty aggro so i dont see why he cant have a 5bet/fold range anyone??
personally i'd be on a pretty small 4bet size here like 3200 if i was going to 4bet but i'd probably prefer to flat in position aswell and just smash him post flop
also, if i did 4bet it's not with the intention of folding here
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