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4 bet bluff spot...
brentd22
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December 13, 2010 - 4:08 am
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History between me and villan has been mostly in my favor with him folding before show down.  The only hand I've shown down for 40 mins. is QQ when I won a monster pot of AJ/AK<QQ.

 

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #13 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t140/t280 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Flushdraw1511 (BTN): BB = 45.2, t12650
lorenabcn (SB): BB = 74.3, t20810
Mihailis (BB): BB = 9.0, t2529
Brent2theD (UTG): BB = 29.7, t8317
8h1f7 (UTG+1): BB = 60.3, t16885
Arniee (UTG+2): BB = 39.4, t11027
CHzar (MP1): BB = 24.3, t6816
mkt82 (MP2): BB = 32.0, t8956
sandwichgraber (CO): BB = 35.8, t10010

Pre Flop: (t645) Brent2theD is UTG with 5 of hearts 6 of hearts
Brent2theD raises to t560, 5 folds, Flushdraw1511 raises to t1580, 2 folds, Brent2theD raises to t8292 all in, Flushdraw1511 calls t6712

Flop: (t17229) 9 of hearts A of clubs 4 of spades (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t17229) 2 of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t17229) 4 of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

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December 13, 2010 - 6:54 am
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I think its hard to say without more info on villian. In general i dont think its a good 4 bet shove spot but if villian has been playing agg 3 betting lightly then it might be a good spot.

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December 13, 2010 - 11:43 am
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Opening a wide range UTG is probably not good with only 30bb because of this type of scenario.  What do you do when you get raised, even if you think villain is full of shit?  You don't have enough chips to take a flop.  So if you shove and get called, you've got about 33% equity at best.  Your edge in this tournament is probably too big to take an iffy spot like this.

JMHO.

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December 13, 2010 - 1:08 pm
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no way i shove here unless i have significant reads that button can 3bet me light here a good portion of the time and my UTG range is viewed as loose. his 3bet sizing also looks pretty strong.

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December 14, 2010 - 12:24 am
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Using the handy TPE_EV_Calcs spread sheet doc I got from you guys I was able to run this hand's equity's and I found out how bad my shove actually was.  

The hole reason I joined this site was to improve on a lot of type things I was flying by the seat of my pants on from just game experiance.  I knew I was making mistakes and leaking chips.  This is not the first leak TPE has helped me with and most likely won't be the last.  

Thanks guys!

bennymacca
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December 14, 2010 - 12:38 am
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what spreadsheet is that? could you please link the thread? cheers

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…..Calcs.xlsx

this was part of the latest theory video MTT Math. Check it out 🙂

bennymacca
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December 14, 2010 - 5:33 pm
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cool, thanks. i haven't' got to that one yet, still working on the huge backlog 😀

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