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First Post, great site. $3 rebuy in the money with 250ish runners still left.
Had played for a couple of orbits with the btn and he hadnt got out of line and was playing a very straight forward and passive game (flatting and folding very probable in this spot i felt) . The small blind is JeanGrae, who had only been at the table for a little more than an orbit and had open shoved in late pos and min raised in early pos with no showdown. I had just raised the hand before on the button with 98o and had to show it down winning vs his A4s.
When he squeezed more than half his stack i obviously knew he was committed. I know that he his a ranked pkt5er and a good player so he is capable of squeezing with a wide range here especially since he had just seen me raise on the btn with 98o. So all this went through my mind
1) why that much of his stack instead of shove? trying to make it look stronger than it really is or wanting a reshove?
2) Why would he be trying to make it look like anything, since he is up against two randoms? By this I mean, yes he is a good player capable of anything, but why would he get fancy vs someone who may or may not think about it anyway?
My question is, should I fold here? My game is getting better, mostly because of this site. So now I am questioning things like this. Is preserving my stack more important than getting in a race situation or worse this deep?
Thanks
Poker Stars $3.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t1250/t2500 Blinds + t250 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
SB: BB = 20.9, t52304, M = 8.72
BB: BB = 5.8, t14486, M = 2.41
UTG: BB = 14.9, t37168, M = 6.19
UTG+1: BB = 13.6, t34059, M = 5.68
UTG+2: BB = 44.1, t110155, M = 18.36
MP1: BB = 12.6, t31402, M = 5.23
Hero (MP2): BB = 37.8, t94562, M = 15.76
CO: BB = 30.9, t77211, M = 12.87
BTN: BB = 46.4, t116119, M = 19.35
Pre Flop: (t6000) Hero is MP2 with Q
A
4 folds, Hero raises to t5177, 1 fold, BTN calls t5177, SB raises to t29875,
i agree that he is a capable player but at these stakes i doubt he committs himself to the pot without a strong hand. he knows and understands stack sizes. he is not committing himself pre and folding to shove regardless of wt he turns up. AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, 1010. also, he surely understands that players at this level dont think on the level he is on(not speaking of u but just in general). for that reason i think he and other top players that play down to these levels are playing a pretty straight forward game and not being to elaborate against players that dont know wt they're doing. so yea i think he is strong here.
whether you call or fold just depends on ur style(passive or aggressive) or any specific reads. i've gotten a lot more aggressive these days and i would nearly break my key pad tryn to get it in here. about 6 months ago i fold.
bjizz
bjizzle44 said:
i agree that he is a capable player but at these stakes i doubt he committs himself to the pot without a strong hand. he knows and understands stack sizes. he is not committing himself pre and folding to shove regardless of wt he turns up. AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, 1010. also, he surely understands that players at this level dont think on the level he is on(not speaking of u but just in general). for that reason i think he and other top players that play down to these levels are playing a pretty straight forward game and not being to elaborate against players that dont know wt they're doing. so yea i think he is strong here.
whether you call or fold just depends on ur style(passive or aggressive) or any specific reads. i've gotten a lot more aggressive these days and i would nearly break my key pad tryn to get it in here. about 6 months ago i fold.
bjizz
Thanks for the reply B. I knew he wasnt folding to a shove obviously, i just found his sizing odd. Especially against two randoms. Wouldnt he just get it in with 20bb's and a raise and call in front of him and the pot being roughly 16k already? I thought that was more straight forward than the play he made.
I am just learning and am the opposite of you, 6 months ago i would have got it in without thinking. Now i mindscrew myself in every situation. And I was wondering if this is a fold to preserve my better than average stack for a better spot.
October 6, 2010
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to me this kinda looks like AK or something
i.e he wants to get it in preflop, but feels if he shoves you might fold, or if he makes a normal 3bet to 12k that you might flat and leave him in a tough spot OOP.
in your shoes you have to shove now, you cant flat, so by villain raising this size you possibly do it with a wider range than if he shoves.
so this looks pretty strong to me, and i would probably give it up, given that you know he is a good player. (and especially if he doesnt know who you are)
if he was some random then i would probably stack off here
bjizzle44 said:
i agree that he is a capable player but at these stakes i doubt he committs himself to the pot without a strong hand. he knows and understands stack sizes. he is not committing himself pre and folding to shove regardless of wt he turns up. AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, 1010. also, he surely understands that players at this level dont think on the level he is on(not speaking of u but just in general). for that reason i think he and other top players that play down to these levels are playing a pretty straight forward game and not being to elaborate against players that dont know wt they're doing. so yea i think he is strong here.
whether you call or fold just depends on ur style(passive or aggressive) or any specific reads. i've gotten a lot more aggressive these days and i would nearly break my key pad tryn to get it in here. about 6 months ago i fold.
bjizz
let me correct myself. i mentioned that based on ur style depends on if u would call or fold. i obv meant shoving or folding here. i know that i posted that id call but i really did mean shoving. flatting would be the worst play ever. so i apologize for the bad advice.
bjizz
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