April 2, 2014
We are 60BB effective, loads of spaces before the bubble so our equity is pretty poor even though we have a stack, wondering what the pre flop plan is here vs two folks, a raiser and a caller. We are in the BB, we can either defend or 3Bet. The tables have been switching like crazy, we know nothing at all about these players.
PokerStars Hand $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit – Level XI (125/250)
Table 1 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dinoall (6090 in chips)
Seat 2: Buchtacker (2198 in chips)
Seat 3: Gui AFBS (24182 in chips) <——-
Seat 4: Gingkobilboa (11723 in chips)
Seat 5: senge22 (23785 in chips) <——-
Seat 6: QueirozPedro (5623 in chips)
Seat 7: bill35a (6684 in chips)
Seat 8: Sr.Leandro.L (9859 in chips)
Seat 9: kondor101 (15144 in chips) <——–
Dinoall: posts the ante 30
Buchtacker: posts the ante 30
Gui AFBS: posts the ante 30
Gingkobilboa: posts the ante 30
senge22: posts the ante 30
QueirozPedro: posts the ante 30
bill35a: posts the ante 30
Sr.Leandro.L: posts the ante 30
kondor101: posts the ante 30
Sr.Leandro.L: posts small blind 125
kondor101: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kondor101 [Kh Ah]
Dinoall: folds
Buchtacker: folds
Gui AFBS: raises 375 to 625
Gingkobilboa: folds
senge22: calls 625
QueirozPedro: folds
bill35a: folds
Sr.Leandro.L: folds
kondor101: ???
3Bet or Defend? sizes if 3bet please. Also if you are going to choose different depending on player types rather than unknowns (I find it hard to decide how to reply to posts against unknowns too) then feel free to add what you would do vs a specific type of player if you are more comfortable with that. You do not have to give every scenario unless you want to, one will be fine 🙂
3bet bigger than i would if i was on the BU and in position. Possibly something between 2200-2300.
I am inclined to 3bet every, if not most player types as this is a premium hand and can easily beat a open/flat 3bet range of some tight villains. If I have a read the guy flats alot of 3bets then i make my sizing bigger for more value.
Sometimes I'll flat and take a cheap flop, and other times I will 3bet. I would call in this spot probably 20% of the time and 3bet 80% of the time.
If you 3bet it should be big because you are OOP. If my math is right the pot is 1895 when it gets to you. I would raise to 2300 – 2500, giving the first caller 2.3 to 2.2 on a call.
Thank you for posting
TPE Pro
December 6, 2012
There's no reason to vary your play vs an unknown (or any player, really). Three-betting is always going to be better than calling unless you have a very good read that one of these players is a huge nit, in which case calling will always be better. Honestly though it's hard for me to construct a scenario where I'd ever just call this. I'd make it 2500 and be happy enough to call a shove.
April 2, 2014
I actually made it 1750, it looks like we may have found another leak 🙂
Should explain only recently got back into poker, but I knew something was wrong with how the hand ended up going down. Shall not carry on with the hand because quite honestly by offering odds that I was to player in position I was asking for trouble. And got it. Lesson learned and leak oliminated. Got to be worth a months sub on its own.
TPE Pro
December 6, 2012
theginger45 said:
I'd probably 3-bet to somewhere around 2250 here and not fold to future action. 3-betting is just too profitable here to turn it down, and as Andrew points out, there's no reason to mix it up here versus unknown opponents.
I'd go further and say there's probably no reason to mix up your play with this hand vs any opponent. The only time to employ a mixed strategy with a given hand is if the EV of, for instance, calling and raising are the same. As you get deeper, there tends to be more value in being able to show up with the nuts in more situations, but as a practical matter I think “mixing it up” is rarely correct in tournaments, no matter who your opponent is.
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