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3bet fold AK or go with it?
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May 20, 2011 - 1:09 pm
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Villain was playing 10/4 over 20sum hands. So he def had a premium when he 4betshoved on me. Vs AK/QQ+ I have 38.8% equity which would just give me the right price to call and with the blinds going up in a few to 50/100 I made the call. Vs QQ+ I have 30.8% equity. Would you have done the same?

 

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

HazZin (MP1): t2539 50.78 BBs
Hero (MP2): t4150 83 BBs
Zarghami (CO): t3290 65.80 BBs
Carmina03 (BTN): t2495 49.90 BBs
BBOY-Wuilfor (SB): t3523 70.46 BBs
kubipol (BB): t3160 63.20 BBs
Svitjod9 (UTG): t3000 60 BBs
GoHabsGo41 (UTG+1): t10418 208.36 BBs
j seide (UTG+2): t515 10.30 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is MP2 with K of diamonds A of clubs
3 folds, HazZin raises to t150, Hero raises to t450, 4 folds, HazZin raises to t2539 all in, Hero calls t2089

Flop: (t5153) 3 of spades 7 of clubs 5 of spades (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t5153) 5 of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t5153) 4 of clubs (2 players – 1 is all in)

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May 20, 2011 - 10:45 pm
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yeah even against a nit you had the right price to call. 

 

if you think that he is never going to get it in with worse after you 3bet though, you could just flat and keep thinks like AQ etc in villain's range. 

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May 21, 2011 - 7:26 am
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somehow i dont feel like getting 50BB's in pre against a nit with AKo is a good play

for starters i would 3bet smaller to 345 or something given that we are in position. this makes it harder for him to re-jam 8x our raise and risks less of our chips to get the same job done

 

if i could ask though – knowing his image and numbers, when you 3bet him did you intend on calling a 4bet or 4bet shove before it happened?

 

i still feel like i would fold here as he's unlikely to be doing this with any hand we crush and its a huge portion of our stack to risk

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May 21, 2011 - 7:51 am
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yeah, I instacalled basically. Having the A and K blocker I'd figure to be flipping vs QQ most of the time. I'm not someone who likes to flat AK and rarely do so, but perhaps I should change it up in these kind of situations vs a tight player and fairly shallow stacked.

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yeah the only thing about playing a tight guy who holds QQ or KK is when an A hits the flop you wont get any more chips out of him, as opposed to when you get it in pre and win you win 50BB's

 

early in MTT's i'm personally a bit more conservative and would raise with the intention of folding to this shove, OR just flat as benny suggested

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May 21, 2011 - 8:02 am
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I agree with Hapetimes here, i'd make the big fold too against what seems to be a tight player, mainly because your rarely ahead and have a nice stack. I'd save the chips for a better situation, in this one against such a tight player the best your proably gonna get id him having the same hand or a coin flip. I couldn't see him 4 betting with AQ-.

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Agree with hapetimes and thirdeye. AK is not the nuts contrary to what a lot of people think. No need to get 50bb's in with AK against a nit.

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May 21, 2011 - 5:13 pm
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im never folding glgl

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May 21, 2011 - 5:20 pm
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 instacall –  a premium early in the tournament, preflop all in – lets do it!

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May 23, 2011 - 8:29 am
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was reviewing a similar hand recently, where i got ~50bb in with Ak against tight player.  I obv regretted it when he flips KK, but thought lots about who I'm getting 50bb in w/ Ak pf and decided a 10/4 (or similar)opener ain't one of em….

 

Interested to see ttwist say he's getting it in.  Perhaps this is how you win tourneys?! surprised

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