3for3 said
Great if Villain will call Tx, and never turn worse into a bluff :).  

Preflop, your hand is fine to raise, but being on the button isn’t any better than being on the button at a 9 handed table.  If anything, it is a tad worse, since fewer low cards have been folded.

Think of your raising ranges compared to how many have yet to act, not the number of people that folded.  

Even if Villain does turn worse into a bluff, that’s fine. I think my hand is a good bluff catcher in this spot since the flushdraws missed.

I didn’t mean being 6-handed was relavant, I was just pointing out that it’s a 6-handed table. On the button is on the button. Besides, we have one of the Aces preflop, so there’s 19 cards Ten or higher left. On the fllop there’s 17 left. So I’m not too worried about him having monsters. If he does have big cards, good for him because he’s getting my chips.

Exactly what I was saying about being on the button. I think this deep, when it folds to me here, my range should be pretty wide. Even more so if the SB and BB are playing to tight. Regardless of how many people folded before me. With that in mind, if the BB is aware, he could call me wide knowing that my range is wide. I would expect him to call me with almost any two suited cards. T4 suited has 38% equity against my range, and I offered the BB 36% on a call. I know that you won’t always realize your equity but you don’t have realize it any more than 64% of the time to break even.

Foucault said
I don’t think this hand is strong enough to put so much money into the pot. If the turn bet were small, you might be able to get away with going for three streets here, but definitely not for a big bet. I don’t know why you think you’re such a favorite against Villain’s range. Charging draws is nice, but one draw got there already and Villain has better Ax, some slowplayed two-pair+, and some turned two-pair+ in his range. A big bet makes it easy for him to call with hands you’re ahead of and fold hands you’re beating.

I’d start by checking flop then go for two streets if Villain checks turn. Other two-street lines are also fine, but you have a lot of better candidates for betting flop, and this is a pretty good one for checking (because it isn’t a big favorite when called and it doesn’t gain much from folds).  

I do agree with you about turn bet-sizing. I noticed after I posted this hand that it was a mistake. In game, I remember thinking  “if he calls the flop, I’m going to bet bigger on the turn to build the pot against flushdraws but not to big to get his Tx hands to fold”. In retrospect, my sizing was to big.

I don’t necessarily think that I am a favorite against his whole range, I was trying to target a portion of his range that I am ahead of each street.

There’s 16 combinations of straights that get there on the turn but there’s also many combinations of Str. draw + Pair and Flushdraws that didn’t get there on the turn that I wouldn’t hate if he folded and wouldn’t hate if he called either.

You’re saying this hand is better played as two streets of value opposed to one or three?

Wouldn’t you say Button Vs. BB ranges are wide here? So small bet on flop keeps him in with everything. I think it could be a mix of checking/betting turn but using a smaller size to like 50-60%. and then small bet on river.

Ok, so betting small on flop, checking turn, calling a river donk or betting 50-60% when checked to makes more sense now. We do this to keep both of our ranges wide on the river. Which would also be similar to Checking flop, betting turn and betting river. Is this what you’re saying? I think I understand now.

nkarapet said

Lets build BB pre calling range inspired by “Wide Ranges” video. It would be pairs 22-88, all suited hands excluding 24s-J2s, Ax up to AJ (included) all offsut broadway, 87o+. Total 54%. I defend my tighter range, but I am not good example 🙂

On flop we have 76% equity against this range. Let’s assume BB defend against your CBet (1/3 pot) with all sets, 2 pair, all pair, all FD which is 50% of BB original range (I think it is very loose calling range on flop, but lets stick to it).

On turn you bet big, so I would assume BB will cal only with straight, sets 2 pair, top pair. Against these range your hand has 25% equity. If we add all FD (which is not profitable for BB to call) your equity will go to 40%. If instead you add Tx then your equity goes to 51%, but I will be shoked with BB calls such a big bet with all Tx. So let’s add  Tx with J+. Still you will have only 43%. Let’s add K high FD, all FD with any pair. Even with this range your hand has 47%.  And BB overcalls with this range.

Blank river and you bet 25% of the pot. So if BB calls with Tx+ you have 37% equity against this range.

I really think the ranges much tighter especially on turn. I do not think BB will call T with less than KT. In this case on turn we will have only 33% and on river only 12% of equity.  

What is this “wide ranges” video? Is it a TPE video? If so, can you provide a link?

In game, my though process was to target all Tx, flushdraws, and smaller pair type hands. I realize that my turn sizing was a mistake. In my defense, I don’t remember making it this big. In my head, I made it bigger than flop but not so big to fold out Tx hands. I see the mistake now.

Which is what I think Andrew was saying. Check flop, bet small on turn and bigger on river. Or bet flop check turn bet river. Or bet flop bet turn check river.

Villain can still have nutty-ish hands, or hands that have me crushed. I just didn’t think it was likely because of his passive actions. Again, I see where I made a mistake on the turn and with sizing. 

I will have to check it out sometime.

Foucault said
The existence of worse hands in Villain’s range isnt’ enough to justify betting. You need to be ahead of Villain’s full range of hands that will call (and/or pick up equity from his folds) to make betting +EV.  

That makes more sense. Thank you!