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3 way pot in pos, flop top pr, second kicker vs donk lead and call on all spade flop??
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October 19, 2010 - 9:02 am
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was instantly gonna reraise the donk lead but when the caller came along i was thinking i should be dumping my hand. UTG was limping habitually from all pos and BB had no clear read on him. should i have stuck with initial plan to raise or is a call in order and ship it on any none spade turn card? wt about a shove and let drws chace me? confused here. how do top players do it consistantly?

looking back at HH i realize my raise size was pretty small, so dont crucify for that, lol

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Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds + t10 – 7 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

RaiderTXTech (UTG+1): BB = 20.5, t2050
Nik(Kh_UA) (MP): BB = 71.7, t7165
Hero (CO): BB = 27.2, t2720
akongkwarta (BTN): BB = 14.3, t1425
computersean (SB): BB = 38.1, t3805
antichoc (BB): BB = 43.9, t4389
Guete (UTG): BB = 64.9, t6487

Pre Flop: (t220) Hero is CO with K of hearts J of diamonds
Guete calls t100, 2 folds, Hero raises to t335, 2 folds, antichoc calls t235, Guete calls t235

Flop: (t1125) 5 of spades J of spades 7 of spades (3 players)
antichoc bets t600, Guete calls t600,

 Hero??????

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October 19, 2010 - 11:17 am
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Pot is ~ 2400 after the donk bet and call. If you raise the donk bet you are committed, so a shove would be the only raise to make on the flop, with your remaining stack being about a pot sized raise.

That being said, with two cards to come do you want to risk all your chips trying to fade a flush draw, or possibly drawing next to dead to a made flush.

I think I would fold but flush draws always get there against me wink

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October 19, 2010 - 1:07 pm
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I would have folded preflop to the utg limp.

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October 19, 2010 - 1:14 pm
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My first intention – to shove (usually cool), but after thinking for a while, i click “fold” instead of it. With such stack sizes I have only 2 decisions – fold or shove here. There are some hands which beat us already, and against pair with 1 spades – we have a flip. Still have good stack to find another spot to get our chips back.

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October 19, 2010 - 1:16 pm
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chechebobos said:

I would have folded preflop to the utg limp.


 

Even if You see – that UTG limps a lot? When player, who looks competent, limp UTG – agree, it's often will be a monster, but when fish limps … i'm not sure.

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October 19, 2010 - 8:50 pm
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Personally I would let this one go.  You missed the flop and you have a couple of straight draws thay only require one more card and/or the flush could have already made it.  The only reasonable raise is  a shove as previously mentioned, I would not want to rely on a pair of jacks with a King kicker with the flush and straights out there.

 

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I shove.If anyone has As it's a coin flip.With  a jack and a spade card again 50-50.So,not the best situation but with your stack and the money in the pot i can't fold.I don't believe that donk bet by antichoc is a set or made flush.And the call from the utg limper can be anything in these tours.He limps with AJ,AQ,55,77?if so,maybe i fold pre especially if  every pot has 3 players minimum.I mean with your stack pre and a loose table i don't play KJo.

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Ya at such a loose table I'd wait for a better spot and fold pre here.  With only 27bbs unless utg has been limp/folding a lot then you can make an argument that you are raising as a steal but then we are in a tough spot when we flop pretty big.  We still have a decent stack left and could be drawing dead a good % of the time here so I fold flop.

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