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I was wondering if this is a shove or not. I dont have a lot of experience at Final Tables, so I dont really take into consideration that folding can be +ev. I look at my cards I see a suited Ace 5 handed so I shove. I know all the players on my left need to have a hand to call me so that is how I justify my shove in the moment. The structure of this tourney is so shallow that I cant stop trying to accumulate chips. That is why I shoved. I also know that people call off light at these stakes and my equity against there calling ranges are 50/50. Was this a mistake?
Merge Network $3 Bounty Turbo No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t4000.00/t8000.00 Blinds + t800.00 – 5 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
BB: BB = 17.1, t136825
UTG: BB = 10.2, t81466
Hero (CO): BB = 11.6, t93023
BTN: BB = 7.4, t59557
SB: BB = 19.6, t157129
Pre Flop: (t16000) Hero is CO with A
2
1 fold, Hero raises to t93023 all in, BTN calls t59557 all in, 2 folds
Flop: (t135114) 5 6 9
(2 players – 2 are all in)
Turn: (t135114) 6 (2 players – 2 are all in)
River: (t135114) T
(2 players – 2 are all in)
July 3, 2010
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I think your equity vs. their light calling range is worse than 50/50.
Let's assume they call something like any Ax, every pair, and K9s+
Well below 50/50. 11 bb's in your spot here is actually a lot and I don't think this is a mandatory shove. I definitely jam it from the SB. I probably jam from button. I don't think I jam from CO.
I agree. Thanks for the feedback. Gonna make adjustments and keep grinding.
I think my adjusted range should be ATs+, AJo+, 77+, and KQs+. I dont think i can be opening then folding to a shove with my stack i should be shoving my whole range for value. Is that the right thinking?
i shove any Ax where the x is greater then the number of players left to act. In this hand it would be A4+. Think I heard/read it somewhere that this way the remaining players will not have a better Ax the majority of the time. If that makes sense…
Think Phil Gordon said it on a podcast once, either way it makes for an easy to follow rule
Thanx Goliath that’s an awesome “rule” i never thought of it that way.
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August 3, 2011
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100% shove
June 22, 2010
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A2s is not really that bad of a hand if you consider wheel straight and flush possibility. I play these same tournaments a lot and you will be called by everything so it usually becomes a race at best. This could be the best hand you receive in awhile before your blinds dwindle down, I would have shoved as well.
"Your either in Sheen's Korner or your with the trolls."
I'm shoving this 100% of the time here as well.
praetor said:
A2s is not really that bad of a hand if you consider wheel straight and flush possibility. I play these same tournaments a lot and you will be called by everything so it usually becomes a race at best. This could be the best hand you receive in awhile before your blinds dwindle down, I would have shoved as well.
DannyN13 said:
100% shove
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October 20, 2011
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Phil Gordon wrote 3 books on NLHE strategy about 7 to 10 years ago but said not long ago that he's more family oriented these days and plays a lot less. His statment seems to be agreed with by Hagbard Celine and RonFezBuddy who've made some excellent videos regarding shoving; locate by using “Math” as the subject.
Also in this case you're likely to be called by the BB, but you still should be plus ev. If on the bubble, I might fold.
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