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3 Bet pot with KK and an A on the board
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September 14, 2010 - 11:59 am
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Full Tilt Poker $16,500 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t120/t240 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

LuckyAdvisor (BTN): BB = 23.5, t5651
HawksForLife2 (SB): BB = 41.2, t9895
fradis78 (BB): BB = 52.1, t12495
morning plonk (UTG): BB = 31.0, t7445
Chrystal20 (UTG+1): BB = 59.6, t14306
FlaskeW (UTG+2): BB = 52.7, t12656
Couttawa (MP1): BB = 26.1, t6265
treskalle (MP2): BB = 51.9, t12455
PokerPS5 (CO): BB = 23.3, t5595

Pre Flop: (t585) HawksForLife2 is SB with K of diamonds K of clubs
morning plonk calls t240, 4 folds, PokerPS5 calls t240, 1 fold, HawksForLife2 raises to t1200, 1 fold, morning plonk calls t960, PokerPS5 calls t960

Flop: (t4065) 5 of hearts A of spades Q of clubs (3 players)

 

What would be the recommended play here?

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September 14, 2010 - 12:14 pm
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It sucks to be honest we are OOP MW with a board that they should have connected with. Check folding seems kind of weak here but PokerPS5 put in a large chunk of his stack pre, I think he comes over the top with anything better than us pre. I think we have to fire out on this flop and evaluate,  I think AQ is very possible to be in their ranges as played.  So I bet and slow down if I get callers.

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September 14, 2010 - 12:18 pm
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Ehhh I say fire like 1855…or 1955…Cant bet for value, hand is now a bluff now…Sucks the A showed up

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September 14, 2010 - 12:57 pm
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I c-bet. I worry more when there is a raise and I 3 bet and then this occurs. With 2 limpers they're just as likely to have small pairs and suited connectors and be as afraid of this flop as you are.

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Haha well I did bet around 1900, PokerPS5 shoved, and I don't think a call is that great but I did call. Is this a fold after a shove? I didn't have any read on the guy.

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It's a pretty dry board all things considered. I think you need to fold to a raise/shove and also shut down to a call from either player and try to get to cheap showdown.

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Fold to the shove your only ahead of a bluff.  You still arent super short on chips, find a better spot to get them in.

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KK…..Brokeback mountain freekin ace magnets.  I was in a $2 180 last night and rocked the spite call on a dude who had A9 off, LOL.  We both shoulda folded to the shove I think, but I was mad so it's OK.  LMAO.

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People love to open limp then call a raise with a weak ace.  And they always spike an ace.  So awful.

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I'd c-bet and fold to a shove and here's why.  You are still ahead of a good part of their range.  If you get raised, I seriously doubt there are any bluffs in their range.  You are almost always beat.

 

However, I do not like checking because they you have absolutely no way of capturing equity in this hand.  You let them bet behind you with As and non As and you should just be folding.

 

So, if you bet you take it down enough to compensate for when they have an A but if you check you just give up when your hand does have some equity.

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