September 14, 2014
#Game No : 541352356 ***** 888poker Hand History for Game 541352356 ***** $800/$1,600 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** Tournament #69783403 $2.70 + $0.30 - Table #35 9 Max (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 1: tiltedcappo ( $39,683 ) Seat 2: blandan25 ( $33,855 ) Seat 4: supergoood ( $18,278 ) Seat 5: scammers73 ( $55,698 ) Seat 6: Drogdon ( $74,589 ) Seat 7: galentean ( $69,214 ) Seat 9: london_ace ( $95,570 ) Seat 10: qierescafe14 ( $100,084 ) london_ace posts ante [$200] tiltedcappo posts ante [$200] qierescafe14 posts ante [$200] Drogdon posts ante [$200] blandan25 posts ante [$200] galentean posts ante [$200] supergoood posts ante [$200] scammers73 posts ante [$200] london_ace posts small blind [$800] qierescafe14 posts big blind [$1,600] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to london_ace [ A, T ] tiltedcappo folds blandan25 folds supergoood folds scammers73 raises [$3,200] Drogdon folds galentean folds london_ace raises [$7,400] qierescafe14 calls [$6,600] scammers73 calls [$5,000] ** Dealing flop ** [ A, 6, 9] $26,200 london_ace checks qierescafe14 checks scammers73 checks ** Dealing turn ** [ 2] $26,200 london_ace bets [$9,999] qierescafe14 folds scammers73 calls [$9,999] ** Dealing river ** [ Q] $46,198 london_ace bets [$77,171] scammers73 folds
Hey
reads - from what i remember v was a really bad player he would call 3-bets with a very wide range, so i decided to 3-bet ATo for value. I'm basically widening
my 3-bet value range against this opponent (merging range).
I reckon i played this hand terrible post flop , i just wanted to post it because i was really unsure if i should bet flop or c/c, which would be better?
bet flop seems good, to get value from weaker Ax hands and draws and lower pairs.
As for bb range , QQ+ and AK likely to 4-bet shove, v may flat AK as we are quite deep though , 99-JJ are flatting from bb i reckon and maybe broadway hands like KQs may call.
So we could get value from some hands otf , anyway i decided to check and i dont like it. Turn seems standard, as for river no idea why i'm shoving, dont think we get called by worse here.
cheers.
I personally like the flop check, especially with the cold call to the 3b. Bet more on the turn (even 12, 13k) so that your river bet putting him all in is a lower % of the pot and make him feel like he has to call off with lower Ax, Qx he rivered a pair with, maybe 9x etc.
September 14, 2014
September 14, 2014
if we shove river, we may get called by JThh , QJhh, for instance no? or do u think v would have bet these otf?
looking at this hand throughly , if v was going to call a turn bet of say 13k, a lot of their range may consist of weaker Ax and 9x. I reckon if they had a flush draw they would have bet these otf or they would have probably shoved these OTT. Some players play them passively so we cant really discount flushes in their range otr can we? I also really dont think this river changes much at all the Q , so yeah shove seems good. If the river was a diamond instead are u shoving? Do you think there is going to be more Ax 9x in their range rather then flushes?
September 14, 2014
joelshitshow said:
A bad player wouldn't 4-bet jacks preflop.
September 14, 2014
well because there's a cold call from the bb, their range is going to be rather strong , maybe AQ/AK , AK may 4-bet shove, not too sure though as for AJs i dunno if they are flatting that from the bb. I guess checking is okay even if the board is wet here , if we bet and face a shove vs the fish , i think we have to call , if we bet and face a raise by the bb , we really are in a akward spot. we are pretty deep here , so i think if bb did raise we could call and re-evaluate turns. If turn is a blank and v bets/shoves we may have to fold. Thoughts on that?
we are in a spr of 1.8 vs the ish and spr 3.5 vs bb , which spr do we use, im guessing its the spr which is less?
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