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August 8, 2012
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This is the 23rd hand from a $3.30 6max tournie on Stars. In game I felt there was no way that I could fold, but looking back at it later I'm wondering if we can get away…
If we treat the CO's open as a shove (to make the Maths easier) then we need 46% to break even. We would have to think that he is 3b us here with AQ+,99+ to make this just about break even. Of course there's a chance that he folds to our 4b jam, but I'm doubting enough times to make this profitable. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t30/t60 Blinds – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Hero (MP): t3125 52.08 BBs
CO: t2020 33.67 BBs
BTN: t6071 101.18 BBs
SB: t4560 76 BBs
BB: t4365 72.75 BBs
UTG: t3455 57.58 BBs
Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is MP with A
K
1 fold, Hero raises to t120, CO raises to t420, 3 folds, Hero ???
May 30, 2012
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Any reads on villain? I have no problem with you just mucking this here. In fact id prefer it. With his sizing it never looks like he’s folding and against a range of 99+ and aq+ we have about 48.5% equity. we don’t need to take a flip here at this point in the tourney. Unless you know him to he very loose or a spazz then I would let this one go. Even thought its 6max it’s not really a spot he’s going to be getting out of line. Especially Jen he puts in more than 20% of his stack
May 30, 2012
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I have a tough time not 4 bet getting it in here. I don't think I am ever folding pre. One option is just to call the 3 bet under repping your hand oop, but then when you do hit your A or K on the flop, I don't think you are getting any more action from the villain if he is holding 1010, JJ, QQ. I really don't mind taking a flip here, higer variance yes, but he could also be tilting or just be overplaying aq, aj as well where you are ahead. Obviously the read on the villain is important too and how he has been playing up to this point. Even if we lose the race here, you will still have almost 20bb to work with. I guess the way I look at it, is to win a mtt especially a micro on Stars, you we are going to have to win several flips to take it down, why not start now? That is just my thought…best of luck at the tables?
Anyone flat in this spot being deep and early stages?
July 17, 2012
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Never flatting in this spot. villian has already donked 1/3rd of.his stack by 30/60 level
If he somehow wakes up with the VERY top of his range here: AA, KK theres absolutely nothing you can do. In a 3.30 buy in most amateur players are going to overvalue hands such as AQ or KQs in this spot and you are doing very well vs his whole range. Definately shove.
Now if you held AQ here for instance, we actually have a discussion on what kind of line we can take.
Flatting would be bad because if he has TT-QQ we only get to see 3cards. Now say for example the flop comes 275r….how do we proceed with AK? most likely c/f oop. What if the flop comes AK2? Now your going to have trouble getting value from TT-QQ. This is why 4bet shoving is the bedt so we get to see all 5 cards or take it down pre if he folds.
June 3, 2012
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In a 6max, I'm wagering 3125 chips just about always.
August 11, 2012
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I think it's bad to consider folding here unless the villain in the hand has a 3bet of 2% over a decent sample size of hands. In a 3.30 I'm guessing people are 3 betting JJ+ and AQs+, so getting it in with AKo is fine. For his raise size I wouldn't be surprised if you both had the same hand and would make me very tempted to ship because I wouldn't want to call and possibly get blown off the hand if I don't improve on the flop. AK is a premium holding and I wouldn't consider folding it for 30bb effective stacks unless the 3bettor is a complete knit. You need a good reason to fold IMO.
jamo said:
This is the 23rd hand from a $3.30 6max tournie on Stars. In game I felt there was no way that I could fold, but looking back at it later I'm wondering if we can get away…
If we treat the CO's open as a shove (to make the Maths easier) then we need 46% to break even. We would have to think that he is 3b us here with AQ+,99+ to make this just about break even. Of course there's a chance that he folds to our 4b jam, but I'm doubting enough times to make this profitable. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t30/t60 Blinds – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History ConverterHero (MP): t3125 52.08 BBs
CO: t2020 33.67 BBs
BTN: t6071 101.18 BBs
SB: t4560 76 BBs
BB: t4365 72.75 BBs
UTG: t3455 57.58 BBsPre Flop: (t90) Hero is MP with A
1 fold, Hero raises to t120, CO raises to t420, 3 folds, Hero ???
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July 20, 2012
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yeah I am ripping it here. If he has any awareness then in a 6max his range should be looser than full ring too, making it an easier shove. If you run into AA or KK then make a straight, otherwise you are racing most of the time and ahead some of the time, sometimes he folds because he is bad (base assumption at these stakes). I'm not flatting there from these stacks, would want to be more like 50bbs effective to think about flatting to play oop.
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