December 12, 2014
Was playing $8 – 180 sng last nite and made one fold which I wasn’t happy with afterwards. Was on around 12-14 bb not quite at bubble stage but in the antes. Waiting to shove on the bb if it’s folded to me but the button who was fairly deep stacked compared to me made a min raise. Thing is, of he shoved i probably would have called. But I folded suspecting he wanted a call from a min raise.
Should I be going all in here to a min raise from the button? Or calling to set mine & just fold if it misses?
November 18, 2014
No, I wouldn't call a shove as in that case it's a flip in the best case scenario, while with me shoving it's a fold in the best case scenario allowing me to collect 4 blinds which is a third of my stack and when he doesn't fold we still have a good chance at winning the pot.
September 14, 2014
September 14, 2014
@ jacob , great post , this is something i struggle with , the math's part. All i know is that if v is pretty aggressive and has a wide opening range we could 3-bet shove really wide and it will be ev+ to do so.
now my question is , if we are readless , which % of hands do you think button is opening with usually? or should be opening? is their a optimal % on how wide we should be opening on the button?
i'd say more then 20% of hands unless they are really nitty , even then that would be questionable.
Also regarding calling ranges , if we were far from the money, i'm pretty sure that it dont matter how they respond to our 3-bet shove?
December 12, 2014
I agree about the maths although it could be interesting to discuss after the event, no way your gonna work it all out on a ten second time bank.
The best you can say to yourself in that time is do I have fe? Yes or no? If it’s yes you shove? If its no you can try to work out your odds of 3-3 versus any 2 overcards? Any over pair your beat. The min raise scared me off at the time and I folded. But mostly I will be shoving that spot from now on thanks to the above advice. In push fold situations that is.
December 12, 2014
Anyway, just won a little $15 – 45 sng on stars & I only signed up 4 or 5 days ago. Got a bit lucky but I didn’t even know what push fold was until yesterday. Was playing them like regular tournaments until then using standard raises and c-bets busting me out early. I busted 3 other sng’s along the way though so lots more to learn. Keep it coming TPE.
@VoxPopuli – I really enjoyed your explanation and math. Alot more posts like these should be on TPE.
@folding_aces_pre_yo – these are really hard questions to answer similar to “how brown is a stick in the amazon?”. You have to make assumptions and investigate these assumptions. Regarding your question about their calling range to our 3bet… it always matters how they respond because it changes our EV. If they call too wide there is a point where our EV becomes negative with our range. If they open a really tight range and call 100% it can be -EV. You cant particularly say “it doesnt matter.”
@JMR72 – Of course you cannot do all this work in a 10second time bank. This is the sort of work you should be doing away from the table to make better decisions on the felt. Congrats on the $15 bink.
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