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2x 1010 vs 3 bet pre

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March 18, 2013 - 6:44 pm

I dont really know what lines to take is this kind of spots

Hand 1

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em – Monday, March 18, 06:24:41 ET 2013
Table 2013004042 206 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $4500.00 USD ) – VPIP: 16, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 0.8, Hands: 74
Seat 2: Player2 ( $11775.00 USD ) – VPIP: 38, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 0.5, Hands: 100
Seat 3: Hero ( $8845.00 USD ) – VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 4.2, Hands: 242431
Seat 4: Player4 ( $4841.00 USD ) – VPIP: 18, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 1.1, Hands: 100
Seat 5: Player5 ( $15908.00 USD ) – VPIP: 22, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 6.3, Hands: 100
Seat 6: Player6 ( $2600.00 USD ) – VPIP: 11, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.8, Hands: 35
Seat 7: Player7 ( $10396.00 USD ) – VPIP: 32, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 2.4, Hands: 87
Seat 8: Player8 ( $7749.00 USD ) – VPIP: 19, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 88
Seat 9: Player9 ( $5325.00 USD ) – VPIP: 15, PFR: 7, 3B: 13, AF: 0.7, Hands: 27
Player1 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player2 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player4 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player5 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player6 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player7 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player8 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player9 posts ante of [$25.00 USD].
Player5 posts small blind [$100.00 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$200.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Th Ts ]
Player7 folds
Player8 calls [$200.00 USD]
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Hero raises [$585.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [$1870.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Hero folds
Player5 wins $1385.00 USD
Player5 wins $1795.00 USD from main pot

Player 5 has been fairly active but mostl;y calling loose preflop big bets with Ax etc. Stats are 23/13 with 7% 3 bet but that was mostly in SB vs late opening.

I play the hand in position but i dont think flatting is an option. Pot will almost be 5k on flop and wnat we do on non overcard flops.It might look like i just try to isolate the limper but I dont think hes quite on that level since he flats A6 off for 4x oop etc.

I also think that flatting plays pretty bad vs his 3 bet range and 4 betting is evfen worse. But 1010 seems almost too good to fold. Any suggestions to play this hand and what lines to take? JJ and QQ do they play the same in this situation of is there a difference in them?

Hand 2:

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em – Monday, March 18, 06:13:11 ET 2013
Table 2013004042 206 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $4880.00 USD ) – VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 20, AF: 1.0, Hands: 12
Seat 2: Player2 ( $7625.00 USD ) – VPIP: 36, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 0.5, Hands: 110
Seat 3: Hero ( $9305.00 USD ) – VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 4.2, Hands: 242441
Seat 4: Player4 ( $4138.00 USD ) – VPIP: 16, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 1.3, Hands: 110
Seat 5: Player5 ( $15588.00 USD ) – VPIP: 21, PFR: 12, 3B: 7, AF: 6.5, Hands: 110
Seat 6: Player6 ( $5630.00 USD ) – VPIP: 9, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 0.8, Hands: 45
Seat 7: Player7 ( $6251.00 USD ) – VPIP: 34, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 2.6, Hands: 89
Seat 8: Player8 ( $6342.00 USD ) – VPIP: 19, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 98
Seat 9: Player9 ( $7180.00 USD ) – VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 16, AF: 0.7, Hands: 37
Player1 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player2 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player4 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player5 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player6 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player7 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player8 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player9 posts ante of [$20.00 USD].
Player9 posts small blind [$75.00 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$150.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ts Th ]
Player2 calls [$150.00 USD]
Hero raises [$385.00 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Player8 calls [$385.00 USD]
Player9 raises [$1125.00 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Hero folds
Player8 folds
Player9 wins $815.00 USD
Player9 wins $1635.00 USD from main pot

I think this is more towards a fold then hand 1. I have to give him credit for sth seeing the positional raise and action in fron of him.

duggs

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March 18, 2013 - 9:26 pm

hand 1 seems like a good fold.

hand 2 i want to iso bigger, can be close to a call if we think the fish behind overcalls a high %. but i still fold

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March 20, 2013 - 6:09 am

Hand 1:

3bet/range:
QQ-99,AQo-ATo,AQs-ATs and 1-2% random bluffs adding up to 9%. and with your read onb large bets with Ax this could even be wider
discount top of range because of the sizing

vs that range we have 53% equity and we need only 32% to make a call. So we can def call and play the hand IP
But we end up with only 1.5PSB behind which can be tricky to play

depending on the buy in we could click back/fold. In low buy in levels we are then mostly crushed or against AK which we can avoid when we have an edge on the field

or we could 4b/pile and leave him the decision on how to recat. I assume that he is bad enough to call with his entire 3betting range. as seen above we have enough equity

im am not sure but i tend between folding and jamming:

what speaks for folding:
-we should have an edge on the table
-we still have 41BB if we fold
-our stack is pretty big to pile
-less variance

what speaks
-our read with big Ax bets heaviley discounting AA,KK
-if we jam and he folds we increase our stack by 50%
-if its a donkfest (sundaystorm like) dont mind taking the high variance to get a huge stack to make a deep run

in game i most probably jam

hand 2:

as duggs said i also like a bibber iso of about 450
with his stats and the positions i am also more in the “this is a hand camp” i would say QQ+,AQs+,AKo
we get direct odds of 3:1 and IO of 9.5:1 if BTN folds.
if we flat i assume we BTN will flat most of the time giving us enough implied odds to call.¨

I probably plan on going broke with a set or OSD, checking back to the BTN on a low board if SB checks and look how the action gets back to me. If SB folds i am mostl likely going broke.
If SB bets i fold on A,K high boards and call one on most other boards

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